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Ruark wrote:They're here. Mark Kelly, Gabrielle Gifford's husband, on CNN with Anderson Cooper: "In Texas, you can buy a gun without a background check." And then, "In Texas, Arizona and some other states, you can get out of prison, walk straight to the nearest gun show and buy an arsenal of weapons and high capacity magazines without a background check." Cooper, coward that he is, didn't blink.
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Ruark wrote:They're here. Mark Kelly, Gabrielle Gifford's husband, on CNN with Anderson Cooper: "In Texas, you can buy a gun without a background check." And then, "In Texas, Arizona and some other states, you can get out of prison, walk straight to the nearest gun show and buy an arsenal of weapons and high capacity magazines without a background check." Cooper, coward that he is, didn't blink.
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Very thankful someone was willing to risk himself to save others. He is a hero.
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Ruark wrote:They're here. Mark Kelly, Gabrielle Gifford's husband, on CNN with Anderson Cooper: "In Texas, you can buy a gun without a background check." And then, "In Texas, Arizona and some other states, you can get out of prison, walk straight to the nearest gun show and buy an arsenal of weapons and high capacity magazines without a background check." Cooper, coward that he is, didn't blink.
That doesn't surprise me because they have been pushing their "universal background check" garbage for a long while now. Despite the fact that the rifle was, by all accounts, purchased at an Academy.

Tying this to gun shows has always betrayed their ignorance / collective malevolence. Am I required to perform a background check on somebody before I sell them a gun? No. Yes, I am required to not knowingly sell a gun to a prohibited person. But more importantly, I want to make sure I am not. As a responsible gun owner, I sell to my fellow CHLers and friends or not at all. The vast majority of gun owners are like this.

Nobody is getting out of prison and stocking up at gun shows. The "loophole" bogeyman dressed up to further involve the government in our business needs to die on the vine. And I'm sick of these statists dancing in the blood of innocent people and screaming about it before the bodies have even cooled. Look how well NICS seems to be working. Who wouldn't want that for everyone? :roll:
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SQLGeek wrote:
Ruark wrote:They're here. Mark Kelly, Gabrielle Gifford's husband, on CNN with Anderson Cooper: "In Texas, you can buy a gun without a background check." And then, "In Texas, Arizona and some other states, you can get out of prison, walk straight to the nearest gun show and buy an arsenal of weapons and high capacity magazines without a background check." Cooper, coward that he is, didn't blink.
That doesn't surprise me because they have been pushing their "universal background check" garbage for a long while now. Despite the fact that the rifle was, by all accounts, purchased at an Academy.

Tying this to gun shows has always betrayed their ignorance / collective malevolence. Am I required to perform a background check on somebody before I sell them a gun? No. Yes, I am required to not knowingly sell a gun to a prohibited person. But more importantly, I want to make sure I am not. As a responsible gun owner, I sell to my fellow CHLers and friends or not at all. The vast majority of gun owners are like this.

Nobody is getting out of prison and stocking up at gun shows. The "loophole" bogeyman dressed up to further involve the government in our business needs to die on the vine. And I'm sick of these statists dancing in the blood of innocent people and screaming about it before the bodies have even cooled. Look how well NICS seems to be working. Who wouldn't want that for everyone? :roll:
not to mention the fact the air force failed to notify FBI, to have the ncic database updated to reflect he was convicted of domestic violence. so teh ncic checks came back as OK to sell.
It was man that failed by some gs4 air-force clerk failing to follow through that allowed the killer to acquire his weapons using the the same system that should have prevented it.


cnn just cracks me up, flash back to hurricane ike and mr. cooper doing live shots from houston area. camera frame had him up to his belt in "high" water. never mind about 1k yards away in the frame was a truck with water just touching the tires. camera pans down to get truck out of frame and a PUPPY walks up towards mr. cooper, I said WALKS, then mr cooper moves toward puppy and low and behold mr cooper was standing in a drainage ditch, the puppy on almost dry ground..it was priceless as he tried to make like it was no big deal. mean while the sidewalk was only wet with rain, not flooding.
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Gotta love CNN:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/06/health/te ... index.html

Article on the front page of CNN under the headline: "Shooter's history puts Texas gun laws in the spotlight".
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Papa_Tiger wrote:Gotta love CNN:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/06/health/te ... index.html

Article on the front page of CNN under the headline: "Shooter's history puts Texas gun laws in the spotlight".
Of course comments are turned off... Morons.
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This gem, from the CNN article above:
  • "In some states, a background check can be run fairly quickly through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS). However, Texas is not one of these states, so firearms dealers are required to contact the FBI directly for all firearm background checks."
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Ruark wrote:This gem, from the CNN article above:
  • "In some states, a background check can be run fairly quickly through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS). However, Texas is not one of these states, so firearms dealers are required to contact the FBI directly for all firearm background checks."
Where in the world do they come up with this stuff? :headscratch
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SQLGeek wrote:
Ruark wrote:This gem, from the CNN article above:
  • "In some states, a background check can be run fairly quickly through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS). However, Texas is not one of these states, so firearms dealers are required to contact the FBI directly for all firearm background checks."
Where in the world do they come up with this stuff? :headscratch
Even worse, not one news organization, or sadly anyone in the Republican party, will set the record straight with the truth about Texas gun laws.

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I’m not suprised in a town of less than 1000 no one was carrying in church. My family’s from a town of less than 500 everyone knows everybody else heck if your not related by blood you’re an in-law to at least half by some degree or another. I guarantee there were a number of pickups with a loaded deer rifle, shotgun, handgun or all of them in that parking lot. I’ve shed my coveralls from deer hunting, ate breakfast at the cafe, parked at the Baptist Church while my cousin and parked at the Methodist Church across the street with gun racks full and loaded. I will admit that was way back in a simpler time.

On another note, Saw the Dallas Bishop has asked that parish 30.06 30.07 signs to be taken down but keep banning guns in Dallas area so as to not make them seem to be easy targets. Deep concealment advised if/when they come down, stay safe.
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5thGenTexan wrote: On another note, Saw the Dallas Bishop has asked that parish 30.06 30.07 signs to be taken down but keep banning guns
That makes no sense. So he wants BG's to THINK it's not a soft target but still wants it to BE a soft target. WTH? :headscratch
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Apparently (some of ?) the executive staff at Texas Monthly don't like Texas gun laws.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/07/opin ... oting.html
But there is one way that Texas is like the Trump administration: Our state government is also in the pocket of the N.R.A. and so has some of the worst pro-gun laws in the United States. It is thanks to the government of Texas that we have not only the open carry law — take your pistol to the grocery store! — as well as a law allowing guns on college campuses. (This was sold as the “campus protection bill.”)
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Still whining about legal carry I see. Sorry Mimi, the facts speak for themselves on that one.
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SQLGeek wrote:Still whining about legal carry I see. Sorry Mimi, the facts speak for themselves on that one.
She's got "keep repeating lies" down pat. And a gullible audience at NYT.
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