'doing target practice', man injures neighbor kid

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Re: 'doing target practice', man injures neighbor kid

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rbwhatever1 wrote:This neighborhood is obviously conditioned to the sound of gunfire if it was no big deal and he was never reported or told to stop by his fellow neighbors. He's definitely a moron and possibly living in a neighborhood full of other morons. Hope the girl is okay.
Who's to say it wasn't the first time he was doing this and before they could even make a call he had shot through the window? I doubt the neighbors would have allowed it to have gone on before and not reported it.

yeah, just because this neighborhood is south of I-30 and the words 'oak cliff' strike fear into almost every white person in dfw doesn't mean there's gunshots going off all the time.
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txnative1951 wrote:But from the wording of the statute, it would seem that basically many tire repair kits would contain a "prohibited weapon".

Ooops... A bit more reading on that page and it seems that they are talking about things like "spike strips" that the police use. Still, it seems like an odd thing to classify as a "prohibited weapon".

Also, they define "zip gun" as "a device or combination of devices that was not originally a firearm and is adapted to expel a projectile through a smooth-bore or rifled-bore barrel by using the energy generated by an explosion or burning substance". That seems a bit broad in my opinion and could actually be used to hinder people hobbyists who might try designing their own firearms.
A thumbnail is also a tire deflation device. All firearms are illegal under this definition, since all firearms were not originally firearms, but a combination of devices that were not originally a firearm.

I'll add one to the list....I was in a jury pool for possession with intent to distribute. Some of the elements of intent to distribute were "repackaging" or "concealing." So basically, any quantity above the threshold amount (4 grams of cocaine in this particular case) is intent to distribute if you remove it from the original container or don't leave it out in plain sight.
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rbwhatever1 wrote:This neighborhood is obviously conditioned to the sound of gunfire if it was no big deal and he was never reported or told to stop by his fellow neighbors. He's definitely a moron and possibly living in a neighborhood full of other morons. Hope the girl is okay.
Who's to say it wasn't the first time he was doing this and before they could even make a call he had shot through the window? I doubt the neighbors would have allowed it to have gone on before and not reported it.

One of the articles I read said it was not the first time so I assumed they did it often but you are correct, I have no idea since I'm not a neighbor...

"Family members say Jasmine continues to improve in a Dallas hospital and should be sent home in a few days. They say it’s not the first time that Manzano and the others had fired at that fence, but it’s the first time someone has been injured."

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2014/03 ... tion.html/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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rbwhatever1 wrote: One of the articles I read said it was not the first time so I assumed they did it often but you are correct, I have no idea since I'm not a neighbor...

"Family members say Jasmine continues to improve in a Dallas hospital and should be sent home in a few days. They say it’s not the first time that Manzano and the others had fired at that fence, but it’s the first time someone has been injured."

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2014/03 ... tion.html/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It doesn't exactly look like the sort of neighborhood where they would have fences that could be used as a proper backstop for even a low powered firearm. *Maybe* if it was concrete block, filled with concrete, it would work for a limited number of hits in the same place, but even with that, I would want a few feet of dirt in front of it. I have an area in my garage where I can fire a few rounds to test to see if a new loading will operate the slide or if it is starting to get overpressure, but that consists of a 30g barrel filled with sand, a half inch plate of steel in the bottom of the barrel, and a brick wall behind the barrel. But, I'm shooting from fairly close range so I'm not going to be missing the barrel. I'm not testing for accuracy, just operation, so I'm within 3-5 ft of the barrel.
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rbwhatever1 wrote:
Keith B wrote:
rbwhatever1 wrote:This neighborhood is obviously conditioned to the sound of gunfire if it was no big deal and he was never reported or told to stop by his fellow neighbors. He's definitely a moron and possibly living in a neighborhood full of other morons. Hope the girl is okay.
Who's to say it wasn't the first time he was doing this and before they could even make a call he had shot through the window? I doubt the neighbors would have allowed it to have gone on before and not reported it.

One of the articles I read said it was not the first time so I assumed they did it often but you are correct, I have no idea since I'm not a neighbor...

"Family members say Jasmine continues to improve in a Dallas hospital and should be sent home in a few days. They say it’s not the first time that Manzano and the others had fired at that fence, but it’s the first time someone has been injured."

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2014/03 ... tion.html/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
For some reason I am not seeing what you quoted in the article, but will go wiht that.

One thing that is puzzeling to me is I have never heard what type of weapon it was, but in one of the live interviews with a family member the comment was made that 'another pellet came through the window' and hit the girl. I am wondering if it was actually a pellet gun and not an actual 'firearm'?
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Re: 'doing target practice', man injures neighbor kid

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Keith B wrote:
rbwhatever1 wrote:
Keith B wrote:
rbwhatever1 wrote:This neighborhood is obviously conditioned to the sound of gunfire if it was no big deal and he was never reported or told to stop by his fellow neighbors. He's definitely a moron and possibly living in a neighborhood full of other morons. Hope the girl is okay.
Who's to say it wasn't the first time he was doing this and before they could even make a call he had shot through the window? I doubt the neighbors would have allowed it to have gone on before and not reported it.

One of the articles I read said it was not the first time so I assumed they did it often but you are correct, I have no idea since I'm not a neighbor...

"Family members say Jasmine continues to improve in a Dallas hospital and should be sent home in a few days. They say it’s not the first time that Manzano and the others had fired at that fence, but it’s the first time someone has been injured."

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2014/03 ... tion.html/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
For some reason I am not seeing what you quoted in the article, but will go wiht that.

One thing that is puzzeling to me is I have never heard what type of weapon it was, but in one of the live interviews with a family member the comment was made that 'another pellet came through the window' and hit the girl. I am wondering if it was actually a pellet gun and not an actual 'firearm'?
i don't have time to cite the reference, but i believe one of the articles stated that the police found a couple of pellet guns and a 9mm. the other men were firing the pellet guns and manzano had fired the 9mm.
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spolct wrote:i don't have time to cite the reference, but i believe one of the articles stated that the police found a couple of pellet guns and a 9mm. the other men were firing the pellet guns and manzano had fired the 9mm.
Looks like this article talks about a 9mm and pellet guns http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/dallas/M ... 80391.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; The article says a bullet had lodged in the back of the skull, but I am wondering if it was an actual bullet or one of the pellets? Either way they should not have been shooting in the backyard with a house right behind their ' fence backstop'.
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Sorry, posted the wrong article. Thought I was going crazy there for a second.


http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/dallas/M ... 80391.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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