"American Sniper" author murdered at Rough Creek Lodge
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OK, I am not one of those who like conspiracy theories, and will not even believe that this is some form of conspiracy.
However, I thought of one thing that maybe those of you current or former military can answer. What if this guy decided during his military time that he as sympathizer and that Iraqis were being killed wrongfully? What if he decided that Kyle he was going to kill Kyle because of his sniper carrer and all of the enemy he had taken out, and just ended up killing his buddy too as he was there with Kyle? How common is it for those with post battlefield stress issues to become sympathetic with the enemy?
I doubt this is the case, but it did cross my mind.
However, I thought of one thing that maybe those of you current or former military can answer. What if this guy decided during his military time that he as sympathizer and that Iraqis were being killed wrongfully? What if he decided that Kyle he was going to kill Kyle because of his sniper carrer and all of the enemy he had taken out, and just ended up killing his buddy too as he was there with Kyle? How common is it for those with post battlefield stress issues to become sympathetic with the enemy?
I doubt this is the case, but it did cross my mind.
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It's a rare thing for that to happen, Keith.
Generally, we are (or at least myself and the guys I was with) indifferent to them. We know that some of the Iraqi's were killed wrongfully--those things can't be helped. It happens in every war, no matter how careful you are. 99.9998% of the troops understand that.
As far as sympathy goes, it's hard to sympathize with anyone who is actively trying to kill you. I can tell you that I didn't care one way or the other about most of the Iraqi's until one fired at us, or IED'd us.... then we quickly dealt with the individual(s).
It's easy to be a sympathizer now-a-days though. You just complain to Medical or Legal, and they either transfer you to a non-combat unit or separate you.
Generally, we are (or at least myself and the guys I was with) indifferent to them. We know that some of the Iraqi's were killed wrongfully--those things can't be helped. It happens in every war, no matter how careful you are. 99.9998% of the troops understand that.
As far as sympathy goes, it's hard to sympathize with anyone who is actively trying to kill you. I can tell you that I didn't care one way or the other about most of the Iraqi's until one fired at us, or IED'd us.... then we quickly dealt with the individual(s).
It's easy to be a sympathizer now-a-days though. You just complain to Medical or Legal, and they either transfer you to a non-combat unit or separate you.
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Im not a Ron Paul supporter but Ive learned not to trust everything I read without waiting for validation from the "alleged source". Maybe Paul said it, maybe he was quoted out of context, & truthfully I hope he didnt express this. I will wait before taking a position on this.donkey wrote:Glad that Ron Paul can stay classy at a time like this.
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Jim Beaux wrote:Maybe Paul said it, maybe he was quoted out of context, & truthfully I hope he didnt express this. I will wait before taking a position on this.
Saying that is missing several points and IMHO being quite insensitive to the families of those slain.
Fortunately, since he's not in office anymore I can resume not caring what he says or thinks, but still it stings a bit coming from someone I thought was the side of, well, decency (assuming, of course that it wasn't a misquote or somehow taken out of context).
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Oddly enough, a friend at work asked about a similar scenario. He wondered if this guy was somehow trying to cash in on that bounty that had been put on Chris' head. If he were some kind of sympathizer that might make that possibility a little more plausible.Keith B wrote:OK, I am not one of those who like conspiracy theories, and will not even believe that this is some form of conspiracy.
However, I thought of one thing that maybe those of you current or former military can answer. What if this guy decided during his military time that he as sympathizer and that Iraqis were being killed wrongfully? What if he decided that Kyle he was going to kill Kyle because of his sniper carrer and all of the enemy he had taken out, and just ended up killing his buddy too as he was there with Kyle? How common is it for those with post battlefield stress issues to become sympathetic with the enemy?
I doubt this is the case, but it did cross my mind.
I shudder to think about its possibility, though.
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Re: "American Sniper" author murdered at Rough Creek Lodge
He was also quoted in the Houston Chronicle's website: http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2013/02 ... the-sword/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;donkey wrote:Glad that Ron Paul can stay classy at a time like this.
http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/04/ron-p ... the-sword/Ron Paul's Twitter wrote:Chris Kyle's death seems to confirm that "he who lives by the sword dies by the sword." Treating PTSD at a firing range doesn't make sense
This is vintage Ron Paul. I'm so glad he's no longer my Representative.
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From: http://www.khou.com/news/texas-news/Ron ... 84761.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Truly inappropriate.
MMQB-ing the decision to put his killer together with guns is not something I'm prepared to do. If anyone could make that call with immunity from second guessing, it was Mr. Kyle. Rest in Peace, Chief.
Truly inappropriate.
MMQB-ing the decision to put his killer together with guns is not something I'm prepared to do. If anyone could make that call with immunity from second guessing, it was Mr. Kyle. Rest in Peace, Chief.
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Here's your validation. I'm directly quoting Ron Paul's quote, which I just searched for on Twitter.Jim Beaux wrote:Im not a Ron Paul supporter but Ive learned not to trust everything I read without waiting for validation from the "alleged source". Maybe Paul said it, maybe he was quoted out of context, & truthfully I hope he didnt express this. I will wait before taking a position on this.donkey wrote:Glad that Ron Paul can stay classy at a time like this.
http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/04/ron-p ... the-sword/Ron Paul's Twitter wrote:Chris Kyle's death seems to confirm that "he who lives by the sword dies by the sword." Treating PTSD at a firing range doesn't make sense
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However, it is the truth. Soldiers die in the battlefield in hail of fire. The pro soldiers are paid to kill and when they die in the battlefield we call them heroes and with their blood history is written.RoyGBiv wrote:From: http://www.khou.com/news/texas-news/Ron ... 84761.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Truly inappropriate.
On the other hand, this incident is pure murder in cold blood or payback of some sort if the vet marines had a "bad experience" with this couple he shot and killed.
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Paul is not the only one. Libs are posting their disgusting bile all over the Internet.
http://weaselzippers.us/2013/02/03/anti ... hris-kyle/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Wow... Yeah, that's a real jackwagon move on his part then.Charles L. Cotton wrote:He was also quoted in the Houston Chronicle's website: http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2013/02 ... the-sword/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;donkey wrote:Glad that Ron Paul can stay classy at a time like this.
http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/04/ron-p ... the-sword/Ron Paul's Twitter wrote:Chris Kyle's death seems to confirm that "he who lives by the sword dies by the sword." Treating PTSD at a firing range doesn't make sense
This is vintage Ron Paul. I'm so glad he's no longer my Representative.
Chas.
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