Shooting at the Lake Highlands Walmart

[Mike1951]

How about one of these.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/DeSantis ... RRWidgetID" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Looks scary - like an accident waiting to happen. Let's see....thread my middle finger through the round hole while I try to get my trigger finger in the right place, and have an awkward grip anyway. Might make a second shot difficult....

It's only been a few years back that BATFE ruled that this type of holster was considered an AOW. If the gun could be fired without removal from the holster and you owned both the holster and the gun that fit it, you were in possession of an "any other weapon".

Now I see them being sold everywhere. Last year, when I first saw it being sold at Sportsmab's Guide, I sent an inquiry to the BATFE. It went unanswered.

Anyone know what changed and when?

[cheezit]

I think the term holster is being used like ak-47, or automatic, or machine gun here

[barstoolguru]

There was a guy that was making them on you tube and he said something about the slide not being covered made it legal. If the slide is covered it is illegal, the gun has to shoot outside the holster

[E.Marquez]

How about one of these.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/DeSantis ... RRWidgetID" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Looks scary - like an accident waiting to happen. Let's see....thread my middle finger through the round hole while I try to get my trigger finger in the right place, and have an awkward grip anyway. Might make a second shot difficult....

About as useful as a Getsmart shoe phone or Cone of silence.

[77346]

This is why NOTHING goes in the pocket with pocket gun

Well said, Teamless... the only reason to get your hands in that pocket should be to reach for the gun...

[telnetdoogie]

The news 8 article linked says it was a Springfield .40. Looks like an XD40 based on the Fox video.
The news 8 article also says "holstered in his pants" - which I take to NOT mean "the gun was in a holster in the man's pants" - it just means "he 'holstered' the gun in his pants" (ie, Mexican carry)

If it was an XD40 with both a grip and trigger safety, he'd have had to be squeezing the trigger and holding the grip at the same time, somehow. I like how the news articles say the gun "went off" - no, it didn't. It was fired. Guns don't "go off" on their own.

[baldeagle]

The news 8 article linked says it was a Springfield .40. Looks like an XD40 based on the Fox video.
The news 8 article also says "holstered in his pants" - which I take to NOT mean "the gun was in a holster in the man's pants" - it just means "he 'holstered' the gun in his pants" (ie, Mexican carry)

If it was an XD40 with both a grip and trigger safety, he'd have had to be squeezing the trigger and holding the grip at the same time, somehow. I like how the news articles say the gun "went off" - no, it didn't. It was fired. Guns don't "go off" on their own.

The gun went off is a deliberate strategy to portray an inanimate object as having a life of its own. That's why guns are dangerous. They go off, and people get hurt and die. That's why we have to get guns out of the hands of civilians. They go off sometimes and people get hurt or killed.

When people write, every word is chosen. There are no accidents. The gun went off is not accidental. It's intentional. It conveys the mind of the writer - that guns have lives of their own and are dangerous to be around.