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Branca is live on Facebook right now (1pm, 5/19/20). You can ask him yourself. https://www.facebook.com/lawofselfdefense
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... ideo-shows

Police attempt to tase Ahmaud in park in 2017 video shows.

Hmmm.
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philip964 wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 3:16 pm https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... ideo-shows

Police attempt to tase Ahmaud in park in 2017 video shows.

Hmmm.
This incident was part of the discussion on Law of Self Defense today. https://lawofselfdefense.com/ahmaud-arbery-files/
In today’s show on the Ahmaud Arbery case I touch on two closely related topics, and share a police body cam video with you.

First, we compare the photos preferentially used by the media in the Trayvon Martin case with the photos preferentially used by the media in this Arbery case.

Second, we look at 42 USC §1983 as a financial motive for such propaganda (e.g., ka-ching).

Third, we share a police body cam video of Ahmaud Arbery in an event independent of Arbery’s confrontation with the McMichaels.
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Re: GA: "Jogger" chased and murdered

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philip964 wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 3:16 pm https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... ideo-shows

Police attempt to tase Ahmaud in park in 2017 video shows.

Hmmm.
I imagine this video, like the other, is going to more damage to the accused than help. Does everyone who sits in a park allow LE to order them out of their car and submit to a vehicle search? No, not without probable cause. Is "his veins are popping on his chest" enough cause to call back up LE, tase attempt, and order on ground. This police force ain't looking too good in the eyes of the public.

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Archery1 wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 7:14 pm
philip964 wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 3:16 pm https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... ideo-shows

Police attempt to tase Ahmaud in park in 2017 video shows.

Hmmm.
I imagine this video, like the other, is going to more damage to the accused than help. Does everyone who sits in a park allow LE to order them out of their car and submit to a vehicle search? No, not without probable cause. Is "his veins are popping on his chest" enough cause to call back up LE, tase attempt, and order on ground. This police force ain't looking too good in the eyes of the public.
I agree. It makes the cops look bad, and by extension, the McMichaels.
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Chaparral wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 7:55 pm
Archery1 wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 7:14 pm
philip964 wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 3:16 pm https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... ideo-shows

Police attempt to tase Ahmaud in park in 2017 video shows.

Hmmm.
I imagine this video, like the other, is going to more damage to the accused than help. Does everyone who sits in a park allow LE to order them out of their car and submit to a vehicle search? No, not without probable cause. Is "his veins are popping on his chest" enough cause to call back up LE, tase attempt, and order on ground. This police force ain't looking too good in the eyes of the public.
I agree. It makes the cops look bad, and by extension, the McMichaels.
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AndyC wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 8:24 pm Unless the McMichaels knew about that video, I doubt it'll be relevant or allowed.
I think that yapping lawyer was trying to use that video to do exactly what he was accusing the other side of doing. The reality of it is that none of it will matter. Those two chased a guy, then pulled in front of him to block his way and shot him dead when he attempted to defend himself. And that... is the reality of it all.

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03Lightningrocks wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 8:50 pm
AndyC wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 8:24 pm Unless the McMichaels knew about that video, I doubt it'll be relevant or allowed.
I think that yapping lawyer was trying to use that video to do exactly what he was accusing the other side of doing. The reality of it is that none of it will matter. Those two chased a guy, then pulled in front of him to block his way and shot him dead when he attempted to defend himself. And that... is the reality of it all.
:iagree:

I initially was all ears to hear what he has to say, now it just seems like he’s reaching way too far to smear dead guy while justifying in a way these two. I’m tuning out. Branca...shut your trap already, you’re smart guy, you know what you’re doing...
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Mike the Cop discusses racism in connection recent shootings/convictions.
What else needs to shade in this conversation? What valuable points need to be considered?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3db4fPO5y6Q
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https://news.yahoo.com/deeply-disturbin ... 45477.html

Sister of one of the suspects shared on the internet a photo that I guess one of the suspects took of the victims dead body.

Well that will probably poison the jury pool in GA.

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Yea, that’s very helpful for these two fill in the blanks...
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Law of Self Defense Q&A is live on Facebook now (1:11pm Central). Will also be available for viewing later.
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Grayling813 wrote: Thu May 21, 2020 6:31 pm Cue the 'Race' Hysteria
https://townhall.com/columnists/larryel ... a-n2569177
The shooters took the video of the shooting to a radio station?
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