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by rentz
Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:51 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Dangerous Dogs and Use of Deadly Force
Replies: 83
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Re: Dangerous Dogs and Use of Deadly Force

suthdj wrote:So you have 2 pits, twins, 1 raised to be mean and the other loving. Your out walking with your 5yo and wife and one of these dogs is running at/to you are you going to wait for it to bite/lick you to deterimine your course of action, so by its very action of not being restrained it is a threat even when it might not be. Hate to say it to all the excuse makers if your dog is loose and gets shot or hit by a car look no further than the mirrior for someone to blame.
the ultimate responsibility is on the dog owner, they need to be responsible and not let their dogs roam and try to keep them confined to a house but even the most careful dog owner might have a dog get out at some point for one reason or another.
Every situation is different I would just hope people have enough training and ability to properly asses a situation.
by rentz
Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:17 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Dangerous Dogs and Use of Deadly Force
Replies: 83
Views: 14485

Re: Dangerous Dogs and Use of Deadly Force

Cedar Park Dad wrote:
rentz wrote:
Cedar Park Dad wrote: If your dog is loose, by its very nature its a threat to everything around it.
This may be the most uninformed generalization I have read today.

if your dog gets out of its gate or house and someone has your same attitude are you fine if they shoot it? By your very statement you believe your dog is a threat once it escapes

a loose dog does not equal a dangerous dog, no more than a guy having a few guys at a bar is a drunk driver
A loose pit bull, which is what this referred to, most definitely is.
no it really isn't, not all pit bulls are aggressive dog's. some of the nicest dog's I've ever been around are pit bulls. any dog with the wrong training and temperament could be aggressive regardless of the breed.
You have to be able to adequately asses the threat, and in most cases based on my experience a dog is simply scared
I understand you have had your dogs attacked by pit's and that's terrible but it doesn't make the breed instantly a danger.
by rentz
Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:06 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Dangerous Dogs and Use of Deadly Force
Replies: 83
Views: 14485

Re: Dangerous Dogs and Use of Deadly Force

Cedar Park Dad wrote: If your dog is loose, by its very nature its a threat to everything around it.
This may be the most uninformed generalization I have read today.

if your dog gets out of its gate or house and someone has your same attitude are you fine if they shoot it? By your very statement you believe your dog is a threat once it escapes

a loose dog does not equal a dangerous dog, no more than a guy having a few guys at a bar is a drunk driver
by rentz
Fri Nov 07, 2014 12:28 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Dangerous Dogs and Use of Deadly Force
Replies: 83
Views: 14485

Re: Dangerous Dogs and Use of Deadly Force

anygunanywhere wrote:
rentz wrote:
Cedar Park Dad wrote:
TVGuy wrote:
rentz wrote:
Salty1 wrote:As long as the dog is actually dangerous and attacking I doubt there would be any issues. The problem one may encounter is considering a barking dog dangerous when in fact it is just making noise and looking for attention. I would be quite upset if somebody shot one of my Golden retrievers because they were running around barking looking for affection, fortunately they do not run loose.......

Bingo, and i really think based on several events over the past year involving officers and dog's that people may be too quick to shoot a dog thinking they are in danger. To me it's just like any other situation, is your life and body really in danger or is there a peaceful escape of the situation without having to draw your sidearm.

I can say I don't know what I would do if someone shot my dog (who is a "dangerous breed" ) but it probably wouldn't be anything good, dogs are like family to me.
I'm in a similar situation and if someone shot one of my dogs we would have a real problem. I'm the proud father of three docile pit bulls, but that doesn't mean there aren't people that think they are about to be attacked if one of the dogs just looks at them.

Don't shoot dogs.
If your pit is off a leash and comes near me I'd empty a mag in it and not give it another thought. :mad5

well that just sounds perfectly reasonable now doesn't it?
make sure to scream OMG it's coming right for us first (southpark joke for those who dont get it)
Sounds as perfectly reasonable as people allowing their dogs to run loose.


dogs get out, god gave you a brain to use it to asses a situation not fire blindly at a dog regardless of it being a real threat or not.
by rentz
Fri Nov 07, 2014 12:27 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Dangerous Dogs and Use of Deadly Force
Replies: 83
Views: 14485

Re: Dangerous Dogs and Use of Deadly Force

cb1000rider wrote:My wife has been bitten twice in our neighborhood. I've encouraged her to carry pepper spray, but she doesn't do it.
Neither bites were "dangerous breeds" - but statistically, that's not where the bites come from.
We have a lot of dogs "at large" - even from some fairly wealthy property owners who just have a "country dog" mentality.
I'm not entirely sure how to handle it. Warning shots aren't legal. And it's perhaps more dangerous to shoot a dog at very close range, especially if that dog isn't of the variety that could kill you.

We've got one lab that is especially bad. We solved that problem by carrying a paintball gun (empty) and firing a few shots the last time he came running. It's loud enough that it sounds like a gun and this dog has obviously been shot at before... Carrying a paintball gun isn't a realistic option.
If that many dogs are roaming around I'd contact your local animal control, they need to come and asses the situation and either track down the owners or capture the dogs. I know the country areas may be different but in most municipalities there are laws and fines associated with having a dog run loose or un-registered.
by rentz
Fri Nov 07, 2014 12:23 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Dangerous Dogs and Use of Deadly Force
Replies: 83
Views: 14485

Re: Dangerous Dogs and Use of Deadly Force

Cedar Park Dad wrote:
TVGuy wrote:
rentz wrote:
Salty1 wrote:As long as the dog is actually dangerous and attacking I doubt there would be any issues. The problem one may encounter is considering a barking dog dangerous when in fact it is just making noise and looking for attention. I would be quite upset if somebody shot one of my Golden retrievers because they were running around barking looking for affection, fortunately they do not run loose.......

Bingo, and i really think based on several events over the past year involving officers and dog's that people may be too quick to shoot a dog thinking they are in danger. To me it's just like any other situation, is your life and body really in danger or is there a peaceful escape of the situation without having to draw your sidearm.

I can say I don't know what I would do if someone shot my dog (who is a "dangerous breed" ) but it probably wouldn't be anything good, dogs are like family to me.
I'm in a similar situation and if someone shot one of my dogs we would have a real problem. I'm the proud father of three docile pit bulls, but that doesn't mean there aren't people that think they are about to be attacked if one of the dogs just looks at them.

Don't shoot dogs.
If your pit is off a leash and comes near me I'd empty a mag in it and not give it another thought. :mad5

well that just sounds perfectly reasonable now doesn't it?
make sure to scream OMG it's coming right for us first (southpark joke for those who dont get it)
by rentz
Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:36 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Dangerous Dogs and Use of Deadly Force
Replies: 83
Views: 14485

Re: Dangerous Dogs and Use of Deadly Force

Salty1 wrote:As long as the dog is actually dangerous and attacking I doubt there would be any issues. The problem one may encounter is considering a barking dog dangerous when in fact it is just making noise and looking for attention. I would be quite upset if somebody shot one of my Golden retrievers because they were running around barking looking for affection, fortunately they do not run loose.......

Bingo, and i really think based on several events over the past year involving officers and dog's that people may be too quick to shoot a dog thinking they are in danger. To me it's just like any other situation, is your life and body really in danger or is there a peaceful escape of the situation without having to draw your sidearm.

I can say I don't know what I would do if someone shot my dog (who is a "dangerous breed" ) but it probably wouldn't be anything good, dogs are like family to me.

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