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loadedliberal wrote:Yes you are wrong, Obama has bent over backwards to get a deal done and all the GOP has done is throw a fit, whine and scream no. I'm convinced that they want to crash the economy so they can use it in '12. Tax increases need to be part of the deal, taxes are lower now than they were under Reagan but there are still no jobs so the talking point that low taxes = more jobs is bogus. I am sick of this, I have never see anything like this from a political party before, nothing is every going to get done if the GOP keeps moving the goalpost.

Okay, let's say you're correct...and it's not the other way around. To what end does this benefit either party?

I understand the issue we are having as far as our debt and lack of ability to reign in our spending based on entitlements. The point I was attempting to make is a concern surrounding the "Darned if ya do and Darned if ya don't" position the seated Republicans are in given the scenario in my OP. I'm simply concerned about the light this will place them in once this all pays out and the media report on what transpired to either raise the debt or not.

It has been my experience that many Americans do not educate themselves to the point of a workable understanding of the situation. Given the sheeple mentality and essentially a laziness on the part of many people im worried it will have a lasting effect and spill over into the upcoming Presidential campaign.

The people who are knowledgeable are the ones who are always ensuring they are making an INFORMED decision but sadly this is not the majority. Too many rely on the well, if it doesn't knock on my door then "whatever"...

A Flat Tax would solve many...many issues we are facing as long as there aren't loopholes for the cronies. But that is a pie in the sky wish... Just like Tort Reform and repealing of Obamacare!

YES!!!!!

FLAT TAX .

Ok...So, they have until August 2nd to make a move to keep the wheels turning ...

John Boehner claims he made a tentative deal to raise the debt limit but was reportedly adamant about NOT raising taxes. Now, in the 11th hour Obama and the Democrats allegedly changed the deal and wanted to add a tax increase to, ya know, "make them Fat Cats accountable"...

BUT... If we stalemate and the debt limit ISN'T raised and we default and interest rates increase we possibly lose our AAA rating, inflation gets worse the recession continues or gets deeper and the POTUS and his cronies get to say "Well, we had a viable plan but Boehner and the Republicans wouldn't go along and now they have done this to you." The media (given its history) won't use a level playing field and report both sides objectively especially not with the up-coming re-election campaign looming.

Now, if the Republicans cave and raise the debt limit and cow-tow to the reported "tax hike" to avoid default their base and the independents who are "paying attention" can/may see them as nothing better than what we just voted out and the democrats can say, "Well, sure we raised taxes but the Republicans must see it as what we needed to do because they went along with it. After all, according to what President Obama has told you it is our understanding that 80% WANT a tax increase to hold accountable those who make more then $250,000 pay their fare share."

Either way... whats a viable solution to avoid the default and NOT alienate your base there-by maintaining the faith of the people who spoke loud and clear when they voted in all the new republicans this last election...

As I understand it there doesn't seem to be much wiggle room...