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by Art S
Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:19 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Fees for CHL classes TOO expensive!
Replies: 60
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Re: Fees for CHL classes TOO expensive!

WildBill wrote:
Salty1 wrote:I have sat through too many death by PowerPoint presentations over the years.
:iagree: Powerpoint has become the bane of teaching and instruction.
It is not the Power Point presentation that kills a class. it is the instructor that does not use it properly that kills a class.
You get a good instructor with a good Power Point presentation plus other teaching tools and you will have a good class. ;-)
by Art S
Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:46 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Fees for CHL classes TOO expensive!
Replies: 60
Views: 9715

Re: Fees for CHL classes TOO expensive!

wgoforth wrote:I really don't think lower prices would influence that much. They are already paying a higher amount to the state, invested in a gun and ammo. Most who take this are ready to get into the CHL culture and I think are looking for someone who will do a good job, rather than who is cheaper. $50 less when they hsave already invested this much wouldn't seem worth it if they think someone is cheaper because they are inferrior somehow (not that you would be, but the price could make some think that)

As a church minister, I am as benevolent minded as anyone. But not only do I need my expenses and investments in this covered, but also to put back into the business to keep making my classes better:

Fee I paid to take DPS class: $100
My hotel, meals, gas to take
the DPS class: $500
Power Point projecter $350
(Ongoing items below)
Business cards, pens,
NRA videos, ads in paper
copies of forms, postage,
CHL-16 book ($3 each, one for each student) These add up a lot.

10 hours of my time and legwork is worth?
NOT including the preparation time in advance of each class.
I would like to add to that:
Prep time for each class (10 hr class is good for 12-13hr day)
class room fees between $30.00 per head to a flat 175.00
Range and target fees $15.00 per
Time spend putting together a good power point presentation
Total paper work per $10.00 (CHL-16, CHL-100, CHL-6, power point handout, etc)
Photos $10.00 per unless you can afford the equipment to do it yourself. even then there is more time and effort.
Gas to and from
I try a furnish some type of refreshment (coffee, soda, chips, crackers, etc)
In theory when are the CHL-100 being filled in, printed, signed and handed out (not suppose to be in that 10 hrs) ;-)
How much time sending paper work to the state
Time you spend talking to people about the class
This all adds up to a long day.
Unless you have your own range, classroom, camera equipment, heavy duty copy machine, etc., your out of pocket just on class day about $60.00. this does not include any time or effort.
there is no way I could live if I drop my fees that much.


I also agree with "MoJo"

I charge $100 for a class. I offer discounts for Seniors, veterans, large groups, and couples. If someone contacts me and they can't pay the $100 and they don't fall into one of the groups that I discount then, under special circumstances, I'll cut the price or, even comp the class. The $100 per student if I only have one or two doesn't offset the cost of the class. (I'm counting, training, gasoline, printing, refreshments, equipment, etc.) but I will hold a scheduled class for one person. Classes at a time other than regularly scheduled will cost you more because it's a disruption of the force. I think if I had a class once a week with 5 students each I might recoup my costs in 2050, if lucky.
OK off my soap box.
What ever you do I wish you well. :seeya:

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