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MeMelYup wrote:

Waco1959 wrote:I have friend that has ended up in the McLennan County Jail on Hwy 6 and I went to visit him. Visits are done from a video center further down Hwy 6 rather that at the jail. According to MCAD, the property is owned by McLennan County. There are NO inmates in the video facility and the property is an unfenced building and parking lot.

There are signs as you enter the lot stating it is illegal to posses a firearm, even concealed, on the property. Since this is NOT a secure facility and isn't connected to the jail (separate lot, other property in between) would this be legal or something that should be reported? Would it be classed as a secure facility as currently interpreted under law in Texas?

Any opinions?

It was an inmate of the McClennan County jail that you went to visit? I would think the visitation center would be considered as part of the jail.

Rrash wrote:

TexasCajun wrote:

Rrash wrote:Another scenario we could likely see from the guilty cities is to remove signage, but still verbally give notice. While it may not happen to concealed carriers unless going through a metal detector, I would think it will happen often to everyone that chooses to open carry. I'm not really sure if there is a way to defend against it. Charles, would this be something that might be addressed in 2017?

Verbal notice wouldn't be enforceable either. The whole point of SB273 was to prohibit gov'ts from attempting to prohibit lawful carry in gov't owned/leased buildings that don't contain jails or courts.

I understand verbal notice isn't enforceable, but there is nothing in SB273 that prohibits a gov't from attempting to prohibit lawful carry by giving verbal warnings. It simply says they can't post signs. If you are asked to leave and even regardless of whether or not you are breaking any laws, couldn't they claim you are trespassing? My point is that I could see some government owned properties trying to intimidate and abuse by giving a verbal warning, even calling police and disarming the CHL holder, threatening arrest, etc., whether lawful or not.