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by JP171
Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:28 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Mall security and right to physically detain you
Replies: 281
Views: 44106

Re: Mall security and right to physically detain you

Let me see the private establishments right to make any policy they want comes to mind since as you are so fond of pointing out the the property owner/ shop keeper has the right to dictate what happens in his store
by JP171
Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:12 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Mall security and right to physically detain you
Replies: 281
Views: 44106

Re: Mall security and right to physically detain you

JMRA, sorry have to disagree with you on the reasonable belief part, reasonable belief has nothing to do with proof. They are two different things. Reasonable belief is nothing more than a reasonable person in my situation having the same information I have believing the same as I do, in your scenario if I see you walking down my aisle and putting your hand down the front of your pants, I have reasonable belief you comitted theft, if my camera records you putting a steak down your pant as I see you putting your hand there, you go directly to jail, I don't even have to show up at court. It has been held that the merchant has the right to see your receipt for any and all goods you remove from that store and if the alarm is tripped they can and will search your bags, pockets and other items or call a LEO and have you searched. In Texas you can be prosocuted for merely sticking that candy bar in your shirt pocket and be convicted

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