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wgoforth wrote:

longtooth wrote:Same on the alcohol issue.

Just like with scripture, you can't go wrong reading it exactly as is, and saying "It means what it says and says what it means!"

Amen.

Unfortunately there are so many instructors who "interpret" the law instead of teaching what it says, I will continue to recommend alternatives to people who ask. I think someone who takes a one hour class and skims the CHL-16 is much better informed than someone who has an instructor that teaches the "any sign is notice" rule, the "one drop of alcohol" rule, or other personal opinions without being crystal clear that's their personal opinion and NOT TEXAS LAW.

wgoforth wrote:Some of the things discussed which concerned me was:
(1) We are to honor ALL no gun signage. If a business does not use a proper 30.06, that's on them, but we know the intent of every sign from a gun-buster to Vernon code.

A woman at a bar knows the intent of a guy who buys her a drink. That doesn't mean she's legally required to do what he wants.

If this is the flawed training the new instructors are getting, it's no wonder I'm seeing new CHL holders who don't know even the most rudimentary basics of Texas law. At this rate, before long the 1-hour online class will be teaching more accurate Texas law than DPS.

Jumping Frog wrote:

Greybeard wrote:My initial thought would be to suggest doing whatever it takes to get a video camera running on each and every one of those "presenters" at the next instructor school. So that what they are and are not teaching can be clearly documented.

Well, I've been considering going through the training, so if I do I will video everything I see.

I would like to see those videos. Assuming the DPS employees don't think they're in Maryland and threaten your family for videotaping them while performing their duties.