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by Slowplay
Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:38 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Senate To Go After Some Handguns
Replies: 71
Views: 9835

Re: Senate To Go After Some Handguns

VMI77 wrote:
Slowplay wrote:
jimlongley wrote:
BTW, has anyone noticed, I haven't seen a comment about it, that it says "registered under NFA"?

Wouldn't that mean that, as for every other NFA, we have to pay a fee to register a firearm we already own? Isn't that an "ex post facto" law? Chas?
Yep, I added a quote from the cretin senator's web page that notes registering grandfathered items under NFA.

Under both the '34 Act and the '68 Act, there were registration periods. I don't believe there was a fee associated with that initial, required registration under the '34 Act - as it was a simple registration of an existing item. I don't recall anything about a fee to register grandfathered items in the cretin senator's web page...?
Graham said on some show like Meet the Press that it includes a $200 tax per gun.
Not that Constitutionality matters to the federal government - they act as if there is no limit to their power - I don't see how a tax associated with registering an existing, owned title 1 firearm could be allowed under the federal taxing powers enumerated in the U.S. Constitution.

There was a reason the registration of existing, but newly classified NFA items had no tax or fee associated with registration - there was no way to conform such a tax to inactivity (item was already owned). The Feds could not show how it (a tax on inactivity that wasn't a tax based on population/capitation) was permitted by the U.S. Constitution.
by Slowplay
Fri Dec 28, 2012 12:11 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Senate To Go After Some Handguns
Replies: 71
Views: 9835

Re: Senate To Go After Some Handguns

jimlongley wrote:
BTW, has anyone noticed, I haven't seen a comment about it, that it says "registered under NFA"?

Wouldn't that mean that, as for every other NFA, we have to pay a fee to register a firearm we already own? Isn't that an "ex post facto" law? Chas?
Yep, I added a quote from the cretin senator's web page that notes registering grandfathered items under NFA.

Under both the '34 Act and the '68 Act, there were registration periods. I don't believe there was a fee associated with that initial, required registration under the '34 Act - as it was a simple registration of an existing item. I don't recall anything about a fee to register grandfathered items in the cretin senator's web page...?
by Slowplay
Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:41 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Senate To Go After Some Handguns
Replies: 71
Views: 9835

Re: Senate To Go After Some Handguns

Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include:
-Background check of owner and any transferee;
-Type and serial number of the firearm;
-Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;
-Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and
-Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration.
Does it seem like they want the grandfathered items to eventually be akin to machine guns manufactured prior to '86? Chalk another one up for the dems and those that hate America & our Constitution (but I repeat myself).

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