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by mamabearCali
Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:09 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: List of executive actions Obama plans to take
Replies: 91
Views: 10097

Re: List of executive actions Obama plans to take

VMI77 wrote:
I agree, however, you have children, right? Are you present 100% of the time when they are with the doctor? Do they go to a public school --cause you can bet teachers will be asking these kinds of questions too. They will work through the children. Grown kids? Then how about grandchildren......I guarantee they'll be asking if grandpa has guns in the home. Nieces, newphews? What about Auntie Mamabear, does she have guns? And in this kind of a rat fink society being created here, your anti-gun neighbor will be asking their pediatrician what can be done about those nutty gun owners next door who let their children use guns....you know, they're afraid of what those evil little right-wingers might do, or that one of those guns next door might get loose. Well, Mr. and Mrs. Pelosibama, tell me the name and address of those obviously dangerous neighbors and I'll make sure it gets in their records.
As long as I am paying for the medical bills and they are under 18 either I or my husband will be in the room.

My kids do not go to public indoctrination centers. I am responsible for their education.

As for grand kids.....well...my eldest is 7 we will cross that bridge when we get there.

Yes this is turning into a rat fink society, but we are not there yet.
by mamabearCali
Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:45 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: List of executive actions Obama plans to take
Replies: 91
Views: 10097

Re: List of executive actions Obama plans to take

VMI77 wrote:
RottenApple wrote:FYI re #16 "Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes" from the Affordable Care Act itself:
"(c) PROTECTION OF SECOND AMENDMENT GUN RIGHTS.—[As added by section 10101(e)(2)]
‘‘(1) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS.—A wellness and health promotion activity implemented under subsection (a)(1)(D) may not require the disclosure or collection of any information relating to—
‘‘(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully-possessed firearm or ammunition in the residence or on the property of an individual; or
‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm or ammunition by an individual.
So while it doesn't prohibit doctors from asking, 1) they cannot be required to and 2) (the way I read it) patients cannot be required to answer and/or answer truthfully.
If you refuse to answer you obviously have something to hide. And who hides information about gun ownership? Why, someone who is paranoid, since we all know the government is ultra pure goodness and would never do anything to you because you own guns. Calling someone paranoid is just another way of saying they're crazy, and if you're crazy, you can't own a gun.
Don't be squeamish. They are your doctor not a judge. It is called deception and if they have become agents of a corrupt gov't willing to step all over my constitutional rights then I have no problem with deception. Last I remembered one did not swear to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but he truth so help me God when one steps into a MD office.
by mamabearCali
Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:29 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: List of executive actions Obama plans to take
Replies: 91
Views: 10097

Re: List of executive actions Obama plans to take

A good bit of that is in the category of --enforce the laws on the books--. For all his huffing and puffing he share did not have much wind. Now some of this I am unfamiliar with, so I don't know what is happening on those levels. The medical stuff, I have no experience with. Perhaps someone else can enlighten us.

And NONE if this would have done a blessed thing to stop any of the mass murders in the recent past. It is more show little substance, but perhaps that is by the grace of God.

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