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by mamabearCali
Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:38 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Made in America
Replies: 79
Views: 9083

Re: Made in America

koolaid wrote:

For all the complaining about unions and environmental regulations, I don't see a lot of people chomping at the bit to send their children off to work in dangerous mines and factories every morning, or putting down their bottled water or showers in order to drink and bathe in untreated industrial runoff.

And on the other side of the coin, for all the complaining about wealth distribution and corporate greed, we have come a long way from the era of the robber baron and Pinkerton goon squads bashing in the heads of workers who don't toe the company line, forced migration to company towns and the indentured servitude of the company store.

Our economy and society has moved on from that, and it has for the most part been beneficial. China today is the Japan of the 70's and 80's. There are already other nations further behind on the industrial path that are starting to become the low cost alternative to China, while China and India begin to creep into the information age. It is the natural progression of things.

So sure, buy American when you can, but stop romanticizing the 19th century. We aren't going back to it.
You know everyone thinks that is what the gov't regulations do and perhaps 50/75 years ago it was, but today the regulations that congress puts out are influenced by so many lobbies that what comes out is not what was intended.

Example: 5 years ago there was a problem with toys coming in from China with lead--BIG problem. Who was doing the importing of those toy--large companies who had their products made with very questionable plastics made in the cheapest manner possible. Scary stuff right--Congress passed a law that required testing of children's toys--sounds good right--until you think about the millions of stay at home moms and dad's that made cloth toys/wooden toys as their small business whose toys never ever contained lead anyway. Mattel, Playschool, and the large coorporations had lobbies that could afford to have the law drawn up to cause them the least problems possible, while thousands of home businesses were put out because the regulations were contradictory hard to understand and seemed to place burdens on them to have each batch of their raw material (yarn, cloth, wood) undergo expensive testing. Some took the chance and waded through the waters, but many many simply looked at the regulations and the possible fines and decided that it was not worth the risk. You could argue that is free markets--but it was not--many had superior products at amazing prices but did not have enough capital to hire lawyers to wade through the mire. Instead of only dealing with the problem at hand--shoddy work in china being sold to children--what passed was sweeping legislation that was onerous and destructive to American business and squashed out competition between small businesses. How do I know all this--I was a small (fledgling) sling maker, and I after looking at the risk to my family of this legislation and the cost of legal fees to continue business said no thanks. Now I only make slings for very close friends and often with the fabric they buy and bring to me. Not someone else making a better sling, but a gov't regulation that was not meant to address my business but did anyway because of how the law was worded put me out of business.
by mamabearCali
Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:10 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Made in America
Replies: 79
Views: 9083

Re: Made in America

I would not classify the American dream as a "you deserve to have XYZ because you are an american" but as a hope that if you work hard, smart, you have the chance at a decent life, if you are very smart and very lucky the chance at riches even. That is not something that exists in much of the world for a multitude of reasons. Now with the multitude of gov't regulations and intrusions into our life that hope is becoming dimmer and dimmer, but even now it is still much stronger than in many places of the world. As for all my fellow bachelor degree students--get specialized skills in several areas if you are going to be dependent on others for your vocation because a BA or a Bachelor of Science (the filter won't let me put the acronym hahahah did not think what else that could stand for :lol: ) is not worth what you paid for it these days.
by mamabearCali
Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:41 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Made in America
Replies: 79
Views: 9083

Re: Made in America

I prefer to buy things here in america as well but who can find such a thing in a store. If yall really would like to do something that helps small american business buy from small american craftsmen on etsy and ebay. Need a quilt--you can go to target and buy one made in china or you could go to an online (often in home) business and buy one from an american crafter--need a winter hat--you could buy one at Dicks sporting goods or you could buy one at a craft fair. Many baby items (quilts, hats, gloves, baby crib layettes) can be bought from american crafters. Now I will say you are likely going to pay a little more. The hat that at Dicks will be $9.99 will likely be $15 at a craft fair (sometimes it is less you just have to look). I find a ton of my Christmas presents at craft fairs because you can get such unique and high quality items from Americans.

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