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Taggart wrote:

Keith B wrote:One quesiton, how did they know you had a CHL? Did you show it to them or did it come up when they ran your license?

I'm curious about this as well.
Glad the situation worked out for you. Many of the people who live in Santa Monica are about the most left-wing idiot nutjobs you could ever imagine meeting, and their elected officials follow suit. Most cops can't afford to live in SM and thus have a much better handle on their sanity. I stopped going to SM years ago when they outlawed smoking in just about all public areas, but the bums could still sleep, pee and crap all over the beach and public parks with impunity. I'm sure the cops there don't like the situation any more than you or I. I interviewed for a job in SM last year, and in retrospect, thank God I didn't get it. :)

He posted earlier that he presented both DL & CHL under the mistaken impression that they would be notified that he had a CHL. He was attempting to prevent any kind of unpleasant "surprise" situation. Like most people from out of state, he wasn't familiar with the degree of panic mode that the authorities in Kalifornia go into over anything having to do with handguns. I'm NOT referring to the average police officer, but the higher ups......It's just one of a number of reasons I don't regret moving back to Texas

Well I guess we all have our own thoughts on whether or not this would be worth pursuing. I would be very interested to hear what you decide to do and what kind of response if any, you get. Stopping arrogant, holier-than-thou, little would-be dictators in their tracks ought to be a subsidized national sport. That being said, the OP is the only one to decide if the effort is justified. Personally, I hope you go after him. At the very least he needs to have an attitude adjustment from his boss. I believe you mentioned showing a military id as well. I don't know if you're active or what, but that is definately a plus for you with the current high regard for servicemen/vets these days. Good luck with this any way you decide to go. If there's any way I can help support your efforts, give a holler!

Given that Santa Monica gets the lions share of it's funding from tourism, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't care to have too much negative publicity. Even in Kali, prosecuting someone for protecting his family with less than lethal force in a public facility, isn't good PR. Especially when the bad guy is a proven threat to the public. So writing a public letter to the DA about a bad experience made worse by an arrogant deputy (with a little sweetening for the PD) is unlikely to cause anything so drastic as an extradition. Especially when the man who got sprayed was not actually harmed to any appreciable extent. At worst they would ignore it and let it fade away from the publics 'brief' attention. At best it might spur some effort to clean out the dregs infesting the area. My guess would be that you would get a letter from the DA's office saying "Gee, sorry you had a bad time. We're working to make things better. Come back and see us again sometime!"

snatchel wrote:Ominous, I will answer some of your questions:

As far as the choice of Vexor- I went on reccomendations from a friend of mine... But I will check into fox now for sure..

Why did he know I had a CHL? I have always shown my DL and CHL (before the CHL, I would show my FL Lic) when dealing with LEO. I wasn't armed, sure.. But just as a courtesy. I know when TX LEO run your DL they also gt a hit for CHL, so I guess I'm assuming other states do too. Anyway, I had just used pepper spray... And I didn't want to "surprise" anyone with anything when they started questioning... Even if I wasn't carrying a Handgun. I also gave them my Military ID LOL.

As far as the ADA goes... I slept on it last night, I wanted to take my time in how I wanted to approach the letter I intend to write. No doubt if I wrote the letter last night it would have been in anger.. And although I am angry, I want to appear objective rather than as some angry redneck. I'm ignorant on who I should send it to... Anyone want to chime in?

IMHO - I do the same as far as showing both DL and CHL. I guess it's a matter of personal choice. Avoiding the 'surprise' factor makes sense to me. It shows the officer that you aren't just some yahoo off the street, but a responsible citizen who will not be taken lightly. As far as the letter about the ADA..........Having grown up in Kalifornia ( and running back to Texas as soon as possible) , I'm reasonably sure it won't get much accomplished, but it won't hurt things. I would write the letter to the District Attorney with a CC attachment for the Mayor, and the Local newspapers. Also maybe a copy to whoever heads up the tourism committee/board. I would emphasize the dangers posed to tourists and visitors by these panhandlers, the offensive attitude of the ADA, and I would praise the efforts and professionalism of the LEO's without using particulars. In this case, the public is your ally. Anything that threatens tourism and makes bad PR for the city gets handled pretty quick. Let us know how this comes out. Good luck!

Isn't the CHL linked to our DL's in the computer system? I'm wondering if the computer kicked a notice back when they ran the drivers license through NCIC. Kind of a scary thought, that. In any event, the homeless around the tourist traps in Kali are sort of like seagulls. Scavengers that are sort of protected........ Yes, yes, I know....That's not nice.....