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by speedsix
Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:39 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: FTF or FTE during test?
Replies: 46
Views: 9045

Re: FTF or FTE during test?

Liberty wrote:
speedsix wrote:...if you're gonna keep it and rely on it, I agree...even if it costs you money to send it back or go to a gunsmith...I found it easier to just sell it to a casual shooter who wouldn't carry it and didn't mind the occasional problem and buy several more reliable ones...a Ruger KP97DC, and two Ruger KP90DC which in 15 years have never hiccuped once... :fire :fire :fire
I gotta laugh when people brag about the reliabilty of their Glock guns. The old Stainless Rugers are as tough as any gun out their and cost less than most and is real American stainless and plastic.
...I know Glock's a fine weapon...I just love to rag on 'em when they talk about infallibility and perfection...gotta keep 'em humble...
by speedsix
Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:12 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: FTF or FTE during test?
Replies: 46
Views: 9045

Re: FTF or FTE during test?

bayouhazard wrote:No excuses. Your gun is your responsility to keep running, whether it was made by Swiss watchmakers or Pakistani farriers.

...if you're gonna keep it and rely on it, I agree...even if it costs you money to send it back or go to a gunsmith...I found it easier to just sell it to a casual shooter who wouldn't carry it and didn't mind the occasional problem and buy several more reliable ones...a Ruger KP97DC, and two Ruger KP90DC which in 15 years have never hiccuped once... :fire :fire :fire
by speedsix
Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:07 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: FTF or FTE during test?
Replies: 46
Views: 9045

Re: FTF or FTE during test?

...well, personally, I'd sell that 22 to you, if I still owned it, but my brother's kinda funny, he wouldn't sell a gun to someone who took such poor care of the one he already has :cool:
...that's OK about you loving Glocks, though, the Glock elves have to feed their kids, too...

...I had to go back and edit my other post...left out something important...
...I'm not the least bit snotty about Glocks...I'd stand beside one in a fight any day...but I'd hafta stand on his left, you know...a round blew out on an unsupported barrel on my Glock 22 when my son was firing it...and I'm just not comfortable around em, since...
by speedsix
Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:07 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: FTF or FTE during test?
Replies: 46
Views: 9045

Re: FTF or FTE during test?

beefmobile wrote:Sometimes students will have malfunctions and i'll just tell them to load 6 rounds for the next string of fire and just fire all six. If they're a jerk about it and act like it's my fault, well they can just lose the points.

As far as the brand loyalty coming out in spades or whatever.........i know most of you are good guys and are enthusiasts, but there is no replacement for constant time on the range and seeing what works and what doesn't. I can appreciate other brand names and models, but whether everyone wants to admit it or not, Glock is unstoppable. We literally go through thousands upon thousands of rounds on our rental guns. Sigs, HK, Kahr, Springfield (xd's and 1911's), Kimbers, S&W all fall to the wayside when it comes to absolute bare bones durability and reliability. Minimal cleaning, sparse lube, and beginner shooters beating the crap out of these guns leave Glock on the top of the food chain constantly. I have had darn near every one of our non-Glock guns go down regularly. The Sig's refuse to lock back on the last round after about 6 months of use (no, the mags don't stay loaded). The HK's are just plain junk, their triggers get crunchy and sloppy and they lose their single-action capabilities. Our Springfield EMP 9mm has only been on the rental wall for about a month and a half and it already has feeding issues (i.e. bolt-over-brass). I have had ONE Glock go down...one time. It was one of our G17's that has been on the wall since 2009 and probably seen over 100,000 rounds easily. The trigger spring broke at the 'hook' part. I took a pair of needle-nose pliers and bent out the end of the broken part, and hooked it around the hole it's supposed to hang on to. Never had a problem since. No, Glock is not the end-all-be-all. One day my G22 and G27 will break and rot themselves out of existence. the difference is that i won't live to see that day ;)

Moral of the story, if you're worried about a weapon malfunctioning during a TEST......i would throw the gun right out the window and forget about it. There's no way you'll ever be able to carry that weapon with peace of mind. My personal, humble opinion would be to get a Glock and treat it right and you'll never have a problem as long as you own it.

...while I respect your opining about how wonderful your experiences with Glocks have been, my experience with the Glock 22 I owned personally and sold to my brother, having since seen him have FTF and FTE, plus my experience and that of others during three different qualifying experiences belie your "Glock is unstoppable" comment...the last requal string of shooters I was with had 4 or 5 different shooters experiencing FTE(with different guns*)...and I had several of them...we were the first shooters of the day...the weapons were clean...ANY machine can/will malfunction...EVEN a SIG...which I think is the Cadillac of SA handguns...can and will have problems...my old Daddy often told me "NEVER say NEVER"... ;-) I'd say Glocks are USUALLY reliable, if taken good care of...(and I'll bet you and I both know what CLEAN means with a weapon)...Semper Fi!!!

*how could I have been so remiss as to fail to say that all shooters in these groups I was a part of were firing range-supplied Glock 9mms...none were weapons of another make...not even classy Sigs... :smilelol5:
by speedsix
Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:25 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: FTF or FTE during test?
Replies: 46
Views: 9045

Re: FTF or FTE during test?

texanron wrote:Option #1: Quaily with a Glock and you wont have to worry about FTE or FTF.
Option #2: Pack 150 rounds just in case you have to take test again.

Good Luck!

...tain't necessarily so!!! the last two times I requalified, SEVERAL had FTE...I had three or four the last time...they just walk up and "wipe" the stovepiped brass out and say "finish shooting"...when all have finished, we go on...range provided for all shooters Glock 17 and 19...rangemaster ordered us ahead of time if we had a malfunction...keep muzzle downrange and raise our free hand...

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