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brazosriver wrote:If it was taught to all students in school, everyone would be on the list eventually.

And then registration (gun or person trained to use them) wouldn't matter because EVERYONE would be trained. There would be no need to verify their training and, therefore, no database. But mandatory (and verifiable) training for only those who WANT to own/use a firearm would point directly to those who own and/or know how to use one.

And this still would do nothing except inconvenience and point out the law-abiding folks. Criminals will still break the law. It is what they do after all.

brazosriver wrote:My main concern is that a lot of people out of panic are getting guns. Most have had no contact or training at all. Children in homes that have never been exposed to guns are curious and that is what gets children hurt. Training would be better for all and better than registration.

And what makes you think that mandatory training wouldn't lead to registration? There would need to be a way to verify the training which means there would have to be a database somewhere. So instead of registering all guns, you are just registering those who are trained to use them.

67SS wrote:FYI drivers license is a TAX..

Just because it's a tax doesn't negate it being a privilege. And, it's still beside the point. We do not, nor should we ever, require certification or licensing (*and yes, I include CHL in this) for people to exercise their rights.

*I believe in and support Constitutional Carry nationwide. In the mean time, however, I will comply with all applicable laws.

45 4 life wrote:I am going to assume that you have at least one child, I will also assume that you, like myself, provided your child and/or children training in gun safety. Would you have considered no training, and then turned one of your own loose with a firearm just because it is right? When you answer that, consider that your family members are going to be exposed to untrained individuals.
I gathered up my wife and two kids, and left a gun range in Ft Worth when a untrained person was rented a firearm and turned loose on the range. My offered help to the individual was declined and my complaints to the range staff went unheard.

Yes, I have 2 kids, age 15 & 13. Both have been trained (and are still in training) by me and are avid shooters. They are trained because I take my responsibilities as a father, as a Texan, and as an American seriously. And no, I wouldn't want them turned loose with a gun without being trained. But that doesn't mean that I believe that firearm training should be mandatory in order to exercise their rights.

We (society) turn young people loose with weapons far, far more deadly than a firearm every day. Anyone age 18 (younger in some states) can walk into a DPS office, take a little test, smile for the camera, and walk out with a license to drive a vehicle. And driving is a privilege, not a right.

We don't require certification for people to exercise any of their other Constitutionally affirmed rights, why should we require it for the 2nd Amendment?

45 4 life wrote:Although I agree that training should not be required to exercise one of our rights in the USA, remember that when the 2nd was written firearm training for all youngsters was a given. Back in those days learning about firearms was a must, today there is very little if any training provided to young Americans.
We as responsible gun owners and parents pass the training on to our kids, but many adults out there have never handled a weapon of anykind. I am sure that many of you, like myself have witnessed this at least once while spending time at the range.

The firearm training provided in those days was done primarily by parents (particularly the fathers) and other family members. It was not then a requirement for people to exersize their 2A rights, nor should it be a requirement now.

brazosriver wrote:I actually agree, but we require hunter safety classes for all hunters under a set age. This has worked for us here in Texas for years now.

Hunting is not a right, keeping and bearing arms is.

While I think gun safety courses are a good thing, I am opposed to requiring any kind of certification to exercise a basic (and Constitutionally affirmed) right.