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by RoyGBiv
Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:26 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Addison Oktoberfest - Improper posting
Replies: 39
Views: 11187

Re: Addison Oktoberfest - Improper posting

^^^^

He gives you verbal notice under 30.05 and you tell him to read the CHL exception.

Verbal notice under 30.06 does not apply because 30.06 does not apply on municipality owned property.
by RoyGBiv
Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:58 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Addison Oktoberfest - Improper posting
Replies: 39
Views: 11187

Re: Addison Oktoberfest - Improper posting

jrene wrote:Does anyone believe that signs which say NO FIREARMS ALLOWED with nothing else are legal under the new law? And does anyone believe that CHL holders will be given the red carpet once they get wanded and have to deal with security and law enforcement? And finally does anyone believe that most CHL holders will say darn the torpedoes and plow ahead into a security line with that sign being posted, or go back to their cars and disarm themselves just to avoid the near certain hassle they will encounter?

I know you are right - technically those signs don't fit nicely into the new statute because they don't mention CHLs or 30.06, but I believe an unqualified NO FIREARMS ALLOWED sign on local government property are not legal. They don't exclude CHL holders. Just my view.
Not trying to pick a fight here.... Please take this as trying to be constructive.

Next time you are faced with a similar situation, make the extra trip without the family or send the family ahead of you and make the time to go through the process and see what actually happens. Be prepared, know the law, be certain you're in the right. Then work the process. Smile, be friendly, try not to feel like you are doing something bad/illegal.... that'll get you extra scrutiny...

I would very much like to hear from someone that was stopped at this event when they got wanded. What happened?

I agree with the "chilling effect", but the new law is about posting 30.06/.07 signs where not allowed. 30.05 signs are good to go in that venue. I am not dissuaded by the "Unlicensed Possession" signs at the grocery store. But I definitely have been dissuaded from carrying to a concert at the American Airlines Center (which is not a prohibited event and it's on City property), so I do know how you feel.

Welcome to the forum...
by RoyGBiv
Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:08 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Addison Oktoberfest - Improper posting
Replies: 39
Views: 11187

Re: Addison Oktoberfest - Improper posting

I'm confused.

This event was posted with 30.05 signs. I would have walked up to security and let them wand me. If they asked any questions or wanted to see my gun, i would have requested they bring an officer over, much like the State Fair a few years ago.

As someone already pointed out, a CHL excepts you from 30.05.

If they did not post 30.06 then they did not violate the new law.
If they did not inform you explicitly that your CHL was unwelcome, they did not violate the new law.

What am I missing?

The Alliance Air Show had a giant sign (and a bunch of smaller signs) that said "No Firearms". They do not apply to me when carrying my CHL.

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