So... Longoria is going to kill SB 1003 because he's angry that Schaefer killed a bill (on its merits) that Longoria sponsored?
Longoria is on record multiple times saying that SB 1003 is a good bill "that needs some work" (paraphrasing).
Like dealing with an angry child.
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- Wed May 27, 2015 1:26 pm
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- Wed May 27, 2015 10:18 am
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Re: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
It's pretty easy to predict that fear mongering progressivism will win that argument.The Annoyed Man wrote:I wonder if the part about "after consulting with students, staff, and faculty..." has any teeth in it. Will students actually get a say? Will staff actually get a say? Or will libtard faculty have all the clout?RoyGBiv wrote:Reading Amendment 6... Looks like it changed the bill from "private colleges are still prohibited" to "private colleges can opt out".
I don't have a lot of grief about that, assuming I'm reading it correctly. Probably why it passed without a record vote.
Maybe I'm not reading it correctly?
Here's 411.2031(e): http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/83 ... 00182I.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
(e) A private or independent institution of higher
education in this state, after consulting with students, staff, and
faculty of the institution, may establish rules, regulations, or
other provisions prohibiting license holders from carrying
handguns on premises that are owned or leased and operated by the
institution and located on the campus of the institution.
When you leave civil liberties decisions to academics, they will never choose to support 2A. It's not in their genetics. Bottom line is that if you want to have 2A rights in any educational environment, the decision MUST be removed from the hands of educators and placed in the hands of legislators and judges.
Assuming campus carry passes in some useful form, it's a good step in the right direction. No law abiding person should disarmed. Predators will never obey any words on any page. It's only "Hope and Change" logic that could ever imagine a positive outcome from disarming the law abiding.
- Wed May 27, 2015 9:44 am
- Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
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Re: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
Reading Amendment 6... Looks like it changed the bill from "private colleges are still prohibited" to "private colleges can opt out".
I don't have a lot of grief about that, assuming I'm reading it correctly. Probably why it passed without a record vote.
Maybe I'm not reading it correctly?
Here's 411.2031(e): http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/83 ... 00182I.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I don't have a lot of grief about that, assuming I'm reading it correctly. Probably why it passed without a record vote.
Maybe I'm not reading it correctly?
Here's 411.2031(e): http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/83 ... 00182I.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
(e) A private or independent institution of higher
education in this state, after consulting with students, staff, and
faculty of the institution, may establish rules, regulations, or
other provisions prohibiting license holders from carrying
handguns on premises that are owned or leased and operated by the
institution and located on the campus of the institution.
- Wed May 27, 2015 9:28 am
- Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
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Re: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
Thanks...DocV wrote:http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/84 ... 011H21.PDFRoyGBiv wrote: ...
Do you have a link for the text of the Zerwas Amendment (#1)?
FYI.. I was wrong about only 1 amendment... 2 more were added without a record vote.
5 and 6 are linked above this post.
- Wed May 27, 2015 9:20 am
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Re: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
Yes... I edited my post above... 2 other amendments added... without a record vote.safety1 wrote:Wasn't their a latter amendment that was acceptable to the author that was attached without a vote?RoyGBiv wrote:Do you have a link for the text of the Zerwas Amendment (#1)?jerry_r60 wrote:It's in amendment one. The amendment removed language so you have to go back to the original bill and see the text that is removed by the amendment.
My recollection of the debate last night was that private colleges were left unchanged. There was discussion about "if it's good for public colleges then why not private?", but the House member pushing that argument was doing it as a Bill killer and, ultimately, there was nothing added or deleted last night that affects private colleges.... I'd like to see the text of the Amendment to confirm this...
And...
Just to reset..... Only one amendment was added to SB 11. All other proposed amendments failed.
You can confirm this by checking the Record Votes dated yesterday here: http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup ... &Bill=SB11" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Amendment 2 (amending Amendment 1) failed, Amendment 1 passed, Amendment 3 was withdrawn, Amendment 4 failed, SB11 passed on second reading.
Hoping to see the text of all 3 if anyone has links...
- Wed May 27, 2015 9:13 am
- Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
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Re: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
Any links for the text of the Amendments that passed? (#1, 5 and 6)?jerry_r60 wrote:It's in amendment one. The amendment removed language so you have to go back to the original bill and see the text that is removed by the amendment.
edited.
- Tue May 26, 2015 11:41 pm
- Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
- Topic: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
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Re: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
Well. OK then.
I'm officially "Lost in Translation ".
I'm officially "Lost in Translation ".
- Tue May 26, 2015 10:51 pm
- Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
- Topic: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
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Re: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
Good news. Cryptic, but good.Charles L. Cotton wrote:I spoke too soon about the Zerwas amendment. I can't say more now.
Chas.
- Tue May 26, 2015 7:24 pm
- Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
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Re: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
The amendment was good.SewTexas wrote:it failed,
good
I'm sad to see it failed.
If the Bill is signed into law, you will need the legislators permission to record your conversation with them, but they will not need your permission to record a conversation with you. How is that good?
- Tue May 26, 2015 7:06 pm
- Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
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Re: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
Kkpsiknl wrote:txyaloo wrote:I hate to say, I actually agree with Stickland and this amendment, but let's get to a vote.
- Tue May 26, 2015 5:33 pm
- Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
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Re: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
How can you bring forward a bill like hb9 without being able to show the impact in specific dollar terms?
- Tue May 26, 2015 4:14 pm
- Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
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Re: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
There's a previous discussion of a deal struck to reach a House floor vote on SB11...TexasJohnBoy wrote:OK, so if they do happen to get to the 2nd reading today, then there's still a glimmer of hope, or are we all just going in the wind...?
I'd say yes.... there's more than just a glimmer. Not a given, but, far from dead.
- Tue May 26, 2015 4:12 pm
- Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
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Re: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
I'm sure the school folks say the same thing when they spend 3 hours discussing gun bills (like the Senate did last week)Ruark wrote:They're really bogging down on SB496.
- Tue May 26, 2015 4:08 pm
- Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
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Re: SB11 Campus Carry House Floor Debate 5/26/15
Correct.CJD wrote:I believe that 2nd reading deadline is today, while 3rd reading deadline is tomorrow.txyaloo wrote:I don't believe it matters. This is the 2nd reading of SB 11. It requires a 3rd reading to "pass". Since the rules weren't suspended, the 3rd reading would be tomorrow which is too late.TVegas wrote:What time is the deadline?
I don't know if they can vote to suspend the rules again today.
http://www.tlc.state.tx.us/dates/dates% ... terest.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;