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by SewTexas
Mon May 19, 2014 11:11 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Is Open Carry Activism Threatening our CHL rights.
Replies: 150
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Re: Is Open Carry Activism Threatening our CHL rights.

spongeworthy wrote:
Keith B wrote:And now they have ticked of Chipotle http://on.nbcdfw.com/vy0Gwsc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Un-beee-leavable :banghead: :mad5
I'm quite conflicted over this one, normally I'd just go elsewhere but Chipotle is my go-to spot for eating out on the rare occasion I do. :mad5

It sounds like they are doing the same thing Starbucks did, just mouth service for the antis-. they won't put up any signs so it really won't affect anything.

but the OC crowd needs to understand they aren't just ticking off the antis anymore, they are irritating the CHLers too, that that does nothing for their cause at all.
by SewTexas
Tue May 13, 2014 5:47 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Is Open Carry Activism Threatening our CHL rights.
Replies: 150
Views: 28453

Re: Is Open Carry Activism Threatening our CHL rights.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:
canvasbck wrote:Let me get this straight, a couple of dozen mouth breathing jerks behaved in a way that irritated a couple of dozen legislators (could be less could be more , I don't know). I'm assuming that said legislators are being made aware that the buffoons do not represent the vast majority of CHL holders.

Texas CHL holders, as a group, have been proven to be the most law abiding among all citizens. More law abiding than those who write and those who enforce the laws. CHL holders have overwhelmingly spoken out against the tactics employed by over zealous OC supporters (at least on this forum). The majority of CHL holders either support or do not oppose OC but the actions of a few mouth breathers will prevent reasonable legislation from passing because they irritated the wrong folks? The difference between a law abiding CHL holder and a law breaking CHL holder will remain the presence or absence of a peice of cloth because one shunned chapter in one movement didn't behave the way they were told to.

For reference, I support OC. I think the guys parading around with ARs are making fools of themselves. I don't want OC because I want to parade around and have folks look at me. I want it to pass because I find the concealment requirement to be silly. "It's only legal if we can't tell your doing it". It would also be convenient to just go to lunch after an IDPA match without either changing clothes or disarming. (I won't go out to eat in my pink vest)
I wish only a couple of dozen people in and outside the Legislature were upset. Calls from constituents who were present as well as those who saw the numerous negative TV new reports are demanding that something be done about "those people." You are correct that the demonstrators are not representative of all CHL holders and not all demonstrators are acting inappropriately. However, to the voters who are contacting their elected representatives, the people who are causing them fear or concern are the very people who will be most likely to open-carry if a bill passes.

Right or wrong, this is how open-carry demonstrations are being viewed by the public and it's harmful to the cause. I'm not arguing their evaluation is correct; I'm saying damage is being done on a scale much larger than ardent open-carry supporters are willing or capable of admitting.

Chas.

:banghead:

how many times do I have to say it....don't scare the children or the old people!

frightening people is not the way to get things accomplished.

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