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I'm done with this....I enjoy a good argument as well as anyone, but you're using ridiculous false arguments....I'm outta here.

Wrong...bad argument and you know it...using a defib is saving someone's life.

performing a tubal is a basic everyday, by choice surgery

So you would force a Catholic doctor to perform a procedure that he/she doesn't believe in?
let me turn that question around "would you want your wife to be the patient?"

a friend is a pharmacist, would you force her to dispense the medications that cause abortions? something is doesn't believe in because of her religious beliefs


you don't care about their religious beliefs....I don't care about your insurance...go somewhere else....I'm relatively sure you aren't "stuck" with the catholic hospital...every city in TX has a hospital that will take 'every' insurance and do just about every procedure, you just have to do a bit of research, make a few phone calls, even my "phone-phobic" husband could figure out how to do that and would understand that everyone has the right to say "no" it's called the "rights of doing business".

it's not just the catholic hospitals....it's the complete redefinition of "secular". "secular" now means "any business that makes a profit", doesn't matter if it's Zodervan press, Lifeway Christian Bookstore, or the little t-shirt cafe in your church....if it makes a profit, it's "secular" and must fulfill it's health mandate duties (so that probably does knock out the t-shirt cafe in your church).

National reciprocity is your litmus test???? I'm sorry...I don't support that.

Don't jump on my back....give me a minute...

NR, opens us up to National regulations...nope, keep it in the states. I know that causes trouble for some of you who travel often, but I'd rather that than have CA and NY tell Texas which hoops to jump through in order to CHL.