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Bullwhip wrote:So if Texas "fixes" this problem, what happens to people who move to Texas with a license from another state? If they're visiting their license is just fine but if they stay here their license is no good? Can't carry until they get a Texas license?

Wouldn't the issue be more that once they become a Texas resident then they are no longer in possession of a valid resident permit from the State they came from?

If I have a Nevada resident permit and I then become a Texas resident, then I would need a Nevada non resident for my permit to be valid, correct?

It's kind of a catch 22, you can't get a non resident till you have a Texas ID, but once you get that your resident State permit in no good, so you can then request a non resident, but at that point you going to be with no permit until either your old state issues you a non resident or you get you CHL.

Lol this seems like time travel paradox.

boba wrote:Utah passed the law to protect Utah residents from bad legislators in other states who were denying reciprocity to Utah. Rant all you want about Utah instructors who are good businessmen, but this Utah law was passed as a reaction to Utah residents losing reciprocity in Nevada and other states. The Utah legislators were protecting their constituents from the selfish Nevada politicians.

It's not the fault of Utah instructors in Texas or anywhere else, but prepare yourself for a marketing blitz as they ramp up to beat the May deadline.

Are you a Utah instructor?

They were dropping reciprocity because Utah instructors advertise everywhere as the cheaper easier CCW alternative, and I mean everywhere in all States. I got mine in California several years ago, the guy who gave our class holds a few a month and there were easily over 40 people in our class. He just went up and down the Coast holding classes, and to be honest the class was lacking to say it nicely.

So yes States such as Nevada and New Mexico saw that they were losing out on revenue, because the Utah CCW was cheaper,shorter,requires no live firing, and no instate instruction requirements. I wouldn't be surprised to see a few other states not recognize Utah, even Texas, if they hadn't have passed this.

WildBill wrote:

Rebel wrote:Honestly I don't see a problem with Utah doing this, as I have lost 2 States Nevada/New Mexico (being in El Paso that was a big loss) since I have had my CFP that were probably due to all the "cheap CCW" advertisements pushed everywhere.

Utah certainly had the right to pass this law. The problem I have is the reason that they felt they had to pass it. As TAM stated, it was the result of selfish "feckless morons" who were trying to take advantage of the laws to make a quick buck. In the end, these same CFP instructors deprived themselves of making money and "hosed everyone else".

It is a shame that they had to make this happen due to CFP instructors who were "feckless morons", but if not they were probably going to lose more States. I mean that's a non issue for the most part for me know since I have my CHL, but it's still a shame to see it happen. I'm just glad they still allow people from non issuing States or "may issue" States to receive one.

I've had my Utah CFP since 2008, I took the class while I was out in California as a "protest" to California gun laws, not as a cheaper alternative to getting a Texas CHL, but since I had a Utah I had put getting my CHL on the back burner, till last year when I finally decided I needed a proper CHL. Besides who wouldn't want one to bypass the NICS anyways, not that the NICS is a process, as it has never taken over 1-2 minutes for me at least, but it's nice not to even have to deal with that anymore.

Honestly I don't see a problem with Utah doing this, as I have lost 2 States Nevada/New Mexico(being in El Paso that was a big loss) since I have had my CFP that were probably due to all the "cheap CCW" advertisements pushed everywhere.