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by wharvey
Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:00 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: I'm calling it: Gingrich/Rice in 2012
Replies: 207
Views: 28350

Re: I'm calling it: Gingrich/Rice in 2012

74novaman wrote:
So I guess the real question is..how do we win over the stupid people?

Candy? :biggrinjester:
Might work, so may beer. We could do what the democrats do and promise to increase social spending. A larger check each month is a big incentive.
by wharvey
Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:48 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: I'm calling it: Gingrich/Rice in 2012
Replies: 207
Views: 28350

Re: I'm calling it: Gingrich/Rice in 2012

74novaman wrote:
I don't care who the repubs nominate, the MSM WILL attack them...try to dig up dirt...do whatever they have to do. Remember McCain in 08? He was supposed to have a "good relationship" with the media...how much did that help him out? They talked about his service...then in the next breath speculated that the torture he endured may have made him mentally unfit for the job of CinC. :???:

Thankfully, with alternative media now someone who articulates his ideas clearly at least has a chance to be heard by anyone willing to do some digging.

As for those who don't bother to research...well, you can't help idiots anyway. ;-)
Completely agree, the media will attack no matter what. Problem with the alternative media is that the vast majority doesn't pay much attention to them. Even though they may be the most creditable the majority of the public doesn't see them that way and those are the ones who decide the outcome of elections.

It is very true that most don't bother to research and you can't fix stupid but unfortunately, stupid votes and carries elections. Specially true when the rest are divided. I'm very tired of voting for the lesser of two, or more, evils but I can't remember it being otherwise.
by wharvey
Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:17 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: I'm calling it: Gingrich/Rice in 2012
Replies: 207
Views: 28350

Re: I'm calling it: Gingrich/Rice in 2012

Think about the last election with so many saying we need change. When asked what changes all I ever got was a deer in the head light look and a repeat of "we need change." No thought process. Might as well been trying to discuss issues with a rutabaga.

I think all seem to be underestimating the power the media has at character assassination. Weak minded sheeple eat it up and make their decisions based on it. Years ago I even heard complaints from some, about Gingrich because he wrote a book while in office. Why he shouldn't when others have and do is beyond me but he was disliked so much that anything he did was bad.

I think many people also enjoy character assassinations because it reduces these nationally known people down to their own level. Of course these sheeple must be told to enjoy it, which is where the media come in.

The system is broke, but it isn't just that people don't vote. It is just like the problems with our educational system. They are many and very complex with no simple solution.

One thing I find interesting is how the get out to vote messages have changed over the years. I like listening to old radio shows from back in the 30's, 40's, and 50's. While now the media says that it is your responsibility and duty to get out and vote; these older shows say it is your responsibility and duty to get out and cast an informed vote.

Even assuming one has the reasoning skills to come to a factually supported decision, it is really hard to be informed when you are feed a steady diet of propaganda as the media now does. Frankly, from the lack of most people's ability to support their own beliefs and ideas with something more substantial than "I think" I don't think that the majority of the people in our country can make informed decisions.

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