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Heartland Patriot wrote:Piers Morgan needs to take himself back to the UK. He's a Euro-windbag...and a mouthpiece, nothing more.

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Update (AP): Mary Katharine e-mails with thoughts:

From earlier, in the second presser, Lt. Vance said two handguns were found w the body and the rifle in the car.

A couple points. If you were of a mind to go into a school w guns concealed somehow–as he might have, considering this started apparently w an altercation in the office instead of going straight to the classroom–you’d likely wanna just carry the two handguns. The rifle would limit mobility and couldn’t be concealed and the handguns would give you plenty of rounds and portability.

Also of interest, if the mom’s rifle was indeed legally purchased, that means it’s NOT an “assault weapon” unless she had it purchased and registered pre-1993. CT bans “assault weapons,” so both that fact and the fact hers likely wasn’t one makes the call for Assault Weapons Ban reinstatement pretty tendentious, right?

Maybe a Ruger Mini 14 ?

Interesting post relating to the HIPAA laws

Here’s the other thing…. HIPAA laws.

If this shooter was in the mental health system and did not want his mother to know he had been suicidal or was making threats… because of HIPAA..no one in the agency could tell the parents. Even if he was living with them. Now.. I do not know the HIPAA laws in that state. There is a national HIPAA law and each states have their own. And as I understand it.. the state laws superposed the federal laws on this.

But in my state when I was a caseworker… if my client didn’t want me to communicate anything to a parent. I couldn’t. Period. Unless that client specifically said “I am going to kill my mother on this date at this time with this gun I have right here” We had no duty to inform. And if he said it and changed his mind 5 minutes later saying he wouldn’t do it… I could not, under direction by our agency, inform.
Now.. if he had made vague threats… “I want to kill someone. I have mom and dad.” Under my agency..we still.. under our state law.. could not inform that parent.

If the client just kept repeating vague feelings of wanting to kill someone… and mom and dad called one day to see how he was doing. All I could say was “He’s doing fine.” Under the law. That was it. anything more was a Civil Rights violation with a huge 5 figure fine.

So mom and dad.. depending on the mental health agency this shooter was involved with.. may have only ever been told “He’s doing fine.” when in fact.. he has been spewing repeatedly how he wants to kill people.

This is why the libs want us to look at the gun! If we look at the gun.. we won’t look at all the other things that have influenced this shooter and is influencing the culture. Failed Psychiatry. Failed Therapy. The failed education system. Taking god out of schools. Abortion. Just to name a few.

JellyToast on December 14, 2012 at 7:59 PM

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Update (AP): CNN backs up Fox’s report that the guns were legally purchased by Lanza’s mother, and claims that the rifle was found in the trunk of a car parked at the school. Did he only use the two pistols during his attack, or did he have the rifle out at some point before returning it to the car? And if he didn’t have it out, why not? Seems like, if you’re of a mind to commit a mass shooting, you’d want to use the biggest weapon you have.

Update (AP): I’m clicking around on Connecticut’s judicial website of gun regulations to see how many violations this guy is probably guilty of under current law. After a cursory five-minute search, I’ve got at least 10. One: Assuming mom didn’t lend him the two pistols and rifle, he’s guilty of three counts of theft. Two: He’s guilty of three counts of possessing a weapon on school grounds. Three: He may be guilty of three counts of criminal possession of a pistol or revolver. Lanza reportedly had a “checkered past” and had been a “troubled youth for most of his life.” We don’t know how checkered because his juvenile records are sealed, but if he was “convicted as delinquent for the commission of a serious juvenile offense” then that’s two more violations, one for possessing each pistol. Four: Per NBC, concealed-carry permits aren’t granted to anyone in Connecticut under the age of 21. That means two more violations for the 20-year-old Lanza for carrying the two pistols. (You don’t need a permit to carry a rifle.) Oh, and if Wikipedia is accurate, Connecticut police are fully entitled to seize weapons in someone’s possession without a warrant if they have probable cause that the suspect is mentally unstable or likely to commit a crime. Go surf around on the gun-laws site and see what else you find. There’s probably stuff I missed.

Does this seem to happen in Blue states more ?

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4:52 p.m: Neighbors described Adam Lanza to ABC as “odd” and displaying characteristics associated with mental illness.

4:41 p.m.: Federal law enforcement sources now say Connecticut school shooting gunman was Adam Lanza, 20, and not his brother Ryan Lanza, 24, as earlier reported. Adam was found dead in the school along with his mother, a kindergarten teacher there

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4:52 p.m: Ryan Lanza, 24, brother of gunman Adam Lanza, 20, tells authorities that his younger brother is autistic, or has Asperger syndrome and a “personality disorder.” Neighbors described the younger man to ABC as “odd” and displaying characteristics associated with obsessive-compulsive disorder.

geekwagun wrote:I was not a gun owner during the AWB period. If there is a total ban, no grandfathering, what do you think that would look like? Will the feds take the records from all the gun stores and track down the evil guns? Will there be house to house searches?

I just bought an AR10 yesterday - so I have skin in the game now.

I am sure I would not want to be in a crew that had to go confiscate any owners guns!

CoffeeNut wrote:

GWE Chally wrote: I haven't seen any anti-gun rhetoric from anybody... yet.
From what I hear, he did not have assault weapons. Sounds like he had two hand-guns. This could help, or hurt, difficult to say.

While we wait for the fallout, I will continue to pray for everyone in that town. They surely are all affected by this horrific and disgusting act.

It has been confirmed that he had a .223 Bushmaster AR-15 along with a Glock and a Sig.

Allegedly the 223 rifle was in his vehicle .

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Update: With the shooter’s body inside the school, police found two handguns. One was a Sig Sauer, the other a Glock 9mm. In his vehicle, police found a .223 caliber rifle, according to CBS News reporting.

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Will Obama now just issue an executive order and how will that be recieved?

A lot of emotion around today and understandably so after such a sad and tragic event. Hopefully when investigations are completed we will have better idea about who the sick youth was and his history. It still will not stop the lefts continued drive for stricter if ineffectual gunlaws its in their DNA.