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WildBill wrote:

Mithras61 wrote:

WildBill wrote:If a suspect lies about something that doesn't matter, would they lie about something that does?

Not trying to pick a fight here, WildBill, but some of us take our service quite seriously and having someone lying about what they did (if, in fact he ever served) is a VERY big deal. Sorry for the semi-hijack.

Whoa there Mithras61! I am talking about mattering as in pertinent to the investigation. That's the point, if he lies about something that they probably never even asked about, it brings his whole character into question.

I understand, and as I said, I'm not trying to pick a fight. I just think it goes directly to the issue of character is all, and I was pretty sure you did also. I wanted to make clear that lying about your service or lack thereof is a huge deal to some of us. I don't know that it has any relevance, aside from possibly impeaching his testimony. I'm not suggesting that the pharmacist was right OR wrong, or that the goblin did or didn't deserve it. I'm only addressing the character of the pharmacist and what the possible lying about his service implies about him.

As to the comments about don't be a goblin if you don't want to get shot, there's something to that, but it still isn't legal to go around shooting people who aren't a threat at the time of the shooting.

WildBill wrote:If a suspect lies about something that doesn't matter, would they lie about something that does?

Not trying to pick a fight here, WildBill, but some of us take our service quite seriously and having someone lying about what they did (if, in fact he ever served) is a VERY big deal. It diminishes those of us who served honorably and well. Also, considering the time he claimed to have served, if he didn't serve (or lied about what he did to enhance his standing), it pretty much calls into question the whole of his character simply because we are talking about the fight against the Nazis & Japanese Empire. Those who failed to serve when called in that time were considered by many to be beneath contempt. To try and claim service that isn't rightfully yours, especially in those circumstances, tends to lessen the respect given to those who actually did what he claims.

I agree that it appears to not be directly relevant to the case, but it seems to me that it surely taints any claims he may make to any heroic action or moral certitude in shooting the goblin in his pharmacy. Consider it this way, how is "I was a PT boat captain during WWII" and "I had to shoot him 'cause he was trying to attack me" different except on a matter of scale if they are both lies?

I do, however, understand your point that if he is shown to be lying about his military service, how can we trust him on this shooting. As I say, not trying to pick a fight over it.


Sorry for the semi-hijack.