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safety1 wrote:

mikeloc wrote:I'm not okay with it. This is not a police state.

mr1337 wrote:

safety1 wrote:

NotRPB wrote:cross post

‏Per> @chucklindell now50 seconds ago

#HB910 will be substituted to REMOVE House amendment banning police stops solely to check CHL for open carry, @EstesForTexas says. #txlege

Figured this was coming...and I'm ok with it. if you are not doing anything wrong, what does it matter?

Same argument for not consenting to a search of your home, or allowing the NSA to collect data without a warrant.

The "nothing to hide" argument.

I don't agree with removing the amendment, but I can't do anything about it. And it still results in a net gain for the 2nd Amendment. So if that's what has to happen to get it passed, so be it.

NotRPB wrote:cross post

‏Per> @chucklindell now50 seconds ago

#HB910 will be substituted to REMOVE House amendment banning police stops solely to check CHL for open carry, @EstesForTexas says. #txlege

joe817 wrote:

safety1 wrote:Thought I heard them say SB17 will be herd in committee on Monday afternoon. Anyone else catch that?

I can find nothing on Texas Legislature Online that says that SB 17 is scheduled to be heard by Homeland Security & Public Safety Committee, where it's been referred to, and been there since May 5. In fact, I can't see that they are scheduled to meet at all next week.

BUT.....HB 910 IS scheduled on the Senate State Affairs Committee for Monday, May 18. And it's a public meeting.

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/ ... 809001.HTM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Ruark wrote:Two things:

1. If this is getting to be like two brats fighting on the playground, maybe it's time for Abbott to step in. I've read that he prefers to let the legislature work, and not meddle excessively with things, but if it gets to a certain point, he might need to come in and break some jaws.

2. Hopefully, it will be clearly communicated to Mutt and Jeff that whatever they decide, it will NOT be forgotten at election time.

At this point, should we still wait for a CTA, or should we saddle up and ride in?

safety1 wrote:

Jason73 wrote:Perhaps this is a glimmer of hope in this whole debacle...

http://www.chron.com/news/politics/texa ... 261285.php

AUSTIN — House and Senate negotiators are 'getting close' to a compromise plan on tax cuts that would drop a proposed sales tax cut, clearing the way to resolve the biggest stalemate in the legislative session, according to several lawmakers close to the talks.

By early Wednesday afternoon, negotiators reportedly were close to agreement on tweaks to property-tax cuts and changes to proposed business-franchise tax cuts that possibly would satisfy both legislative chambers.

The potential deal: Increase the standard property tax homestead exemption by $10,000 and cut the business-franchise tax by 25 percent.

That gives the House the business-tax cut it wanted, and gives the Senate a property-tax cut it wanted. Details still were being worked out.

A House proposal for sales-tax cuts is off the table, according to senators who said they had been briefed on the discussions.

As part of the deal, the Senate and House then would move forward to pass bills on expanded border-security funding, removing the Public Integrity Unit ethics watchdog unit from Travis County to the Texas Rangers and open-carry legislation.

Thanks for the post Jason73

Jason73 wrote:Perhaps this is a glimmer of hope in this whole debacle...

http://www.chron.com/news/politics/texa ... 261285.php

AUSTIN — House and Senate negotiators are 'getting close' to a compromise plan on tax cuts that would drop a proposed sales tax cut, clearing the way to resolve the biggest stalemate in the legislative session, according to several lawmakers close to the talks.

By early Wednesday afternoon, negotiators reportedly were close to agreement on tweaks to property-tax cuts and changes to proposed business-franchise tax cuts that possibly would satisfy both legislative chambers.

The potential deal: Increase the standard property tax homestead exemption by $10,000 and cut the business-franchise tax by 25 percent.

That gives the House the business-tax cut it wanted, and gives the Senate a property-tax cut it wanted. Details still were being worked out.

A House proposal for sales-tax cuts is off the table, according to senators who said they had been briefed on the discussions.

As part of the deal, the Senate and House then would move forward to pass bills on expanded border-security funding, removing the Public Integrity Unit ethics watchdog unit from Travis County to the Texas Rangers and open-carry legislation.

v7a wrote:While we wait for the children to play nice, some legal news from the 6th Circuit:

The Fourth Amendment and open carry of guns (where such open carry is legal)

While open-carry laws may put police officers (and some motorcyclists) in awkward situations from time to time, the Ohio legislature has decided its citizens may be entrusted with firearms on public streets. Ohio Rev. Code §§ 9.68, 2923.125. The Toledo Police Department has no authority to disregard this decision — not to mention the protections of the Fourth Amendment — by detaining every “gunman” who lawfully possesses a firearm. And it has long been clearly established that an officer needs evidence of criminality or dangerousness before he may detain and disarm a law-abiding citizen. We thus affirm the district court’s conclusion that, after reading the factual inferences in the record in Northrup’s favor, Officer Bright could not reasonably suspect that Northrup needed to be disarmed.

v7a wrote:Next week's State Affairs committee meeting has been scheduled and HB910 is not on the list.