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C-dub wrote:

clarionite wrote:

ScottDLS wrote:

clarionite wrote:

ScottDLS wrote: I'm 100% with you on this, We've got class c misdemeanants with lifetime federal firearms ban. The Federal "domestic violence" definition is very loose. I think that states could define it "out" of the federal prohibition, maybe.... And also know that there is no clear way to identify "DV" in the federal system. Especially problematic is the woman ('cause it's always a woman, right??) who copped to a class c or b before Sen Lautenberg's law, for shoving her husband. And the female that "slapped" her intimate partner for making a sexist remark...

I'm no more OK with a woman slapping a man than I am with a man slapping a woman. Neither are appropriate in my book.

do you consider such "slapping" a felony that should permanently ban a woman from owning a gun?

I don't see it any different than any other adult slapping another adult.

Why is it different?

The laws may be specific regarding a man slapping a woman, but I doubt it. The question at this point in this discussion is whether or not you think a slap deserves a permanent deferral.

No the question posed to me was specifically about a woman slapping a man. I answered that I believe in equal rights for all. I don't believe in discriminating against women due to their sex.

To answer your latest question, I believe in looking at the entire situation. If a man hits a woman, he's shown a lack of respect for her and her well being. I believe it calls for at least a temporary suspension of his rights to carry. Quite possibly more. If a woman hits a man, she's also shown a lack of respect for him and his well being. Why should she be treated any differently?

ScottDLS wrote:

clarionite wrote:

ScottDLS wrote: I'm 100% with you on this, We've got class c misdemeanants with lifetime federal firearms ban. The Federal "domestic violence" definition is very loose. I think that states could define it "out" of the federal prohibition, maybe.... And also know that there is no clear way to identify "DV" in the federal system. Especially problematic is the woman ('cause it's always a woman, right??) who copped to a class c or b before Sen Lautenberg's law, for shoving her husband. And the female that "slapped" her intimate partner for making a sexist remark...

I'm no more OK with a woman slapping a man than I am with a man slapping a woman. Neither are appropriate in my book.

do you consider such "slapping" a felony that should permanently ban a woman from owning a gun?

I don't see it any different than any other adult slapping another adult.

Why is it different?

ScottDLS wrote: I'm 100% with you on this, We've got class c misdemeanants with lifetime federal firearms ban. The Federal "domestic violence" definition is very loose. I think that states could define it "out" of the federal prohibition, maybe.... And also know that there is no clear way to identify "DV" in the federal system. Especially problematic is the woman ('cause it's always a woman, right??) who copped to a class c or b before Sen Lautenberg's law, for shoving her husband. And the female that "slapped" her intimate partner for making a sexist remark...

I'm no more OK with a woman slapping a man than I am with a man slapping a woman. Neither are appropriate in my book.

Years ago in a prior marriage, I was attacked by my wife (now ex wife) while she was drunk. I was attempting to go to bed as I had to be at work at 04:00 and she wanted to argue. She trashed the house, assaulted me with a corded phone, bit me to the point that blood was running down my arm, and threw everything in my brief case across the front room. I called the police when things started getting violent. When they showed up, they put the cuffs on me! She had two light bruises on her forearms where I had restrained her while she was trying to hit me. I had a black eye, a knot on my head, blood running down my arm, and I was the sober one. If it weren't for the neighbors hearing a big portion of the fight and stepping up and telling the cops they had the wrong one in cuffs, I might be disqualified to carry now too. I'm 6'7" and 300+ lbs. I look intimidating. But I've never, and will never assault a woman or a child.

I worry about permanently disqualifying events, not just for myself but for other young people growing up. You find yourself in situations you never expected to be in. Life's hard, it's harder when you're young and stupid. Thankfully if we survive to old age, we're a little wiser for the ride. I'd rather look at the life in toto to gauge where a person is at.

And in a related topic, When it comes to Mental issues, I'm all for keeping violent, mentally disturbed people safe along with those around them. But who gets to decide who's mentally disturbed? What level of disturbed is too disturbed? Because trust me, Everyone has a touch of disturbed from time to time.