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by Katygunnut
Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:19 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: CHL, Vehicle and Adult Beverage Question
Replies: 145
Views: 16024

Re: CHL, Vehicle and Adult Beverage Question

Keith B wrote:
jerry_r60 wrote:
Crossfire wrote:If the handgun is within your reach, then you are presumed to be carrying under authority of your CHL, and you should notify the officer. "In the glove box" would be within reach in most situations.

If it is in the trunk, then you are not "carrying" it. You are only "transporting" it, and I don't see any reason to notify. Unless there is probable cause to conduct a search, it should not come up. And if there is, you can tell them about it then.
In my post i had asked about when my gun was "locked in the glove box". Does the fact that the glove box is locked not matter, it's still considered "within reach".
Because there is not a definition of secured that states 'locked in a glove box or console', then I would say it would still be considered 'within reach'. If I have a gun in the passenger compartment of my vehicle, loaded, unloaded, in the back seat, under the seat, no matter, I am going to inform the officer when I present my CHL and DL.
Minor disagreement.

Assuming the traffic stop occurs in Texas, I'm not going to inform the officer that I have a weapon in the car. I'm just going to hand over my CHL along with my DL and anything else he asks for (registration, proof of insurance, etc). If the LEO then asks me whether I have a gun, I will answer truthfully "yes, it is in the glove box", etc.

I've been stopped twice since getting my CHL and the above process has worked out fine (although in one case the LEO just handed my CHL back saying that he didn't need it, and he didn't ask whether I have a gun).

I would also hand over my CHL even if I did not have a weapon on me at the time, by the way.

Of course, I will also ensure that I have everything ready when the officer gets to my car, with my hands in plain view on the steering wheel and the dome light on if at night, etc.
by Katygunnut
Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:57 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: CHL, Vehicle and Adult Beverage Question
Replies: 145
Views: 16024

Re: CHL, Vehicle and Adult Beverage Question

74novaman wrote:
sjfcontrol wrote:
My bet is that he's had a few beers while off-duty. AND I bet he did NOT disarm prior to doing so.
Comparing his drinking ON-DUTY to a CHL'er drinking at dinner is not (IMO) a comparable situation.
Yup!

I don't drink before work either. :nono:
I don't want him drinking while on duty regardless of whether he has a gun.
by Katygunnut
Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:41 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: CHL, Vehicle and Adult Beverage Question
Replies: 145
Views: 16024

Re: CHL, Vehicle and Adult Beverage Question

Jim88 wrote:I haven't seen anyone mention the worst case scenario of having to shoot someone in self-defense after "a couple" of beers. It probably wouldn't take much of a lawyer to convince a panel of wishy-washy jurors that your judgement was impaired. Short of having a dozen witnesses with cell phone video to exonerate you, at the very least you'll probably be re-thinking your decision after spending a lot of money on your own attorney.
Personally, if I shoot someone it will be because this was the last resort to protect the lives of myself or my family. So I won't be second guessing my decision to carry on that night where I planned to have a couple drinks at dinner. If it comes down to it, I will be happy that I am broke from lawyers fees and spending a couple months in jail instead of being dead.

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