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Thanks middleageruss for a good explanation of what I was attempting to express!

drjoker wrote:

threoh8 wrote: Glock 19 just shot pretty much where I aimed it... I just watched that front sight a little harder.

See, threoh8 agrees with me. Just concentrate on that front sight & ignore your wrist.

I agree that focusing on sight picture lets one aim any gun correctly.

The grip angle issue is more a question of unsighted fire (i.e., point shooting) and natural point of aim. Certainly it is easier and faster to shoot accurately with a good sight picture when your handgun presentation moves the gun naturally to the correct point of aim.

I'll also check rifle or shotgun stock fit for natural point of aim. Look at a target. Close my eyes and mount the long gun to my shoulder. Open my eyes. Are the sights naturally aligned and on target, or do I need to consciously adjust my natural point of aim? Works the same way with a handgun. With dry fire practice, for example, look at your target. Draw and present the handgun while closing your eyes. Open to see if the handgun sights are on target.

A-R wrote:Glock grip angle is different (slanted more) than many other pistols. For this reason many don't like Glock and don't shoot it as well. Conversely, many Glock shooters don't shoot other handguns as well or as instinctively.

Right on point. To add to this, once a person has shot a lot of rounds through with one grip angle, your muscle memory is acclimated to presenting a handgun on target and having the sights line up naturally. It then takes the conscious mind overriding the subconscious to adjust the aim when presenting a handgun that has a dramatically different grip angle. The effects are noticeably different when point shooting (shooting to natural point of aim without use of the sights).

In addition to Glocks, the other well-known grip angle is a 1911. Many claims have been made over the years about the inherent, natural "pointability" of Browning's design. The 1911 grip angle is so popular that S&W designed the same grip angle into their M&P line and touted that as one of their marketing points.

My point is not to start an online argument over "which is better", it is to point out that the grip angles are different and people end up naturally preferring what they are used to. It also takes an awful lot (thousands) of rounds down range to really set the body with a new muscle memory if one wants to completely reset to a different grip angle.