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jbarn wrote:I am also aware of employers that include 30.06 language in the employee manual, subjecting a violator to arrest and prosecution.

In the HR field, best practices will include having all new employees sign an acknowledgement that they have received a copy of the HR manual and agree to abide with its terms. These signed copies are then kept in the HR file to be produced as evidence if required. Careful employers will even require annual signed acknowledgements. This practice is primarily intended to assist in defending wrongful termination lawsuits, but it obviously also assists in criminal prosecution as applicable.

Conversely, many employers will have elaborate HR manuals, however, no means to demonstrate the employee ever actually received a copy. This would obviously aid the defense of such charges.

sbrawley wrote:She asked about getting a CHL the other day mainly due to the layout of the retail store she works at. She wanted to know if she could carry while working. I told her that since her store isn't posted that she possibly could as a "customer" but she would need to check store policy for employees carrying.

She should NOT check the store policy.

If she has not been given written notice using 30.06 language (such as an employee handbook), or been given verbal notice by a person with authority to do so, then it is legal for her to carry in the store.

However, if the store is large enough that she needs to ask someone, the answer is very likely to be "no". If it is a large retail operation with an organized Human Resources department, the question of firearms will create consternation, concern, and a strong desire to "do something". Then she has been given notice and it would be a Class A Misdemeanor to carry. She will have also inadvertently made herself on focal point of concern.

Of course, if she is working in a small Mom & Pop outfit where the owner likes to go shooting with the employees, that is a different scenario all together. My concerns apply to large businesses and are based on 35+ years experience interacting with HR/Legal/Risk type people.