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C-dub wrote:

jmorris wrote:

C-dub wrote:

steveincowtown wrote: He called a supervisor and was told the correct procedure, which is to swab the outside and put it in the detector. No alarm=no reason to open the case.

I'm curious about this. What exactly are they swabbing for that they would need to open the case? I mean, we know there's a gun in there and there could be ammunition, right? And the counter person already saw the contents, no?

The swab is for explosives, which smells different to the machine than gunpowder. The counter person saw the firearm(s) but didn't actually search the case.

That's what I figured they would be swabbing for, but didn't know how they would differentiate the gun powder from anything else by just swabbing. Thanks.

Others may have a different experience, but lately (as in past two years) I haven't had a ticket agent ask to look in my case or at any of its contents.

I usually just crack the case open wide enough to slide th Declaration Card in and the lock it up.

Napier wrote:Methinks they want to know if is worth the risk to steal.

Yup. Which is why I didn't want it opened. It had 6 guns in it that all would be hard to come by these days.

The TSA clowns are at it again.

Checked for a flight yesterday and as always the AA counter people were great. The AA agent was an older lady and told me how much she loved shooting and eating venison.

I followed my gun case to the oversized TSA baggage drop. Officer asked for my keys and I politely informed him that was not the procedure at DFW. He insisted that he would be opening the case and I told him he would need to get a supervisor.

He called a supervisor and was told the correct procedure, which is to swab the outside and put it in the detector. No alarm=no reason to open the case.

Once he realized he was wrong his demeanor changed for authoritive to more passive.

How many procedures to these guys really need to know? A dozen, maybe 20? Why don't they know what is going on 90% of the time?

JJVP wrote:

steveincowtown wrote:It does have wheels, is not Pelican and is $99 at Acadmey. I'll post pics in the morning.

This one?


http://www.academy.com/webapp/wcs/store ... =626381017" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Exactly! Thanks for doing the leg work.

1/2 the price of the Pelican and IMHO nearly as good. 2 locking latches, plus two padlock loops. Wheels to roll, etc.

It does have wheels, is not Pelican and is $99 at Acadmey. I'll post pics in the morning.

C-dub wrote:Sorry that happened. I hope everything was undamaged. And I hope that the supervisor will honor his word.

I read folks pretty well, and I think he will follow through. He went straight into the area where the other Officer (chuckle again...I can't help it. How can these guys share this title with true LEOs?) was shut the door behind him.

I am literally at DFW airport 2x a week, so I am going to make it a point to stop back by and say hi to the supervisor. He seemed very genuine.

I fly a lot...as in 1.3 Million miles in the past 7 years. I check a gun or multiple guns every time I fly, depending on if I am travelling for work or pleasure.

Headed home for Christmas today so I brought an Scoped AR, a Scoped 10/22, and two Glocks; all in one case.


Easy breezy at the check in counter. As always I ask for Firearms Dec card, and as always the agent handed one over relatively descreetly. Agent calls out "oversize" and someone comes over to walk me to the TSA drop for oversize bags.

Arrive at drop off and the agent says, "I'll need your keys to unlock the case." TSA policy at DFW airport is that they do NOT open a rifle case. I tell him that is not the procedure. He snaps back "That's how I do it." I calmly reply "Could you grab a supervisor?"

He calls supervisor and the supervisor reaffirms what I told him about the policy. He swabs the the outside of the case and then tells me I good to go.

I start to walk off and immediately turn around to make sure he puts my case on the belt (I had a case broken into at DFW about 3 months ago). He launches my case from at least 5' away and every bit of 5' in the air. This of course makes me livid.

I told him that I will need that supervisor to come down. He replies " The supervisor doesn't want to come down." I reply " Get him here now, or I will gladly meet him where he is."

Supervisor comes down and I ask politely ask him two questions.

#1) Is it TSA's policy to let individual Officers (chuckle) make up policies? If not, could he review their checked weapons policy with everyone under him.

He responds no, and to his credit seemed upset at the guy.

#2) I informed him that the during the Officer's little temper tantrum he had thrown my gun case. I then asked the supervisor if he had something valuable that he cared for and had entrusted to a federal employee how he would feel to see it being flung about.

Again the supervisor seemed concerned and told me that neither problem would happen again.

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