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by steveincowtown
Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:45 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: CHL, Vehicle and Adult Beverage Question
Replies: 145
Views: 15976

Re: CHL, Vehicle and Adult Beverage Question

sjfcontrol wrote: If you fail the SFST, you're intoxicated regardless of your BAC.

IANAL, but if you can find one that thinks that you should ever submit to SFST, I would be surprised.

I would never submit to a SFST, whether I was dead sober on my way to church, or leaving bar.

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by steveincowtown
Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:17 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: CHL, Vehicle and Adult Beverage Question
Replies: 145
Views: 15976

Re: CHL, Vehicle and Adult Beverage Question

n5wmk wrote: Maybe he was opposed to alcohol himself?
If what you are saying is accurate, I would have to say yes.


IANAL, and you should research and confirm all facts yourself:
(d) A license holder commits an offense if, while intoxicated, the license holder carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of whether the handgun is concealed.
which means....

2) "Intoxicated" means:
(A) not having the normal use of mental or physical faculties by reason of the introduction of alcohol, a controlled substance, a drug, a dangerous drug, a combination of two or more of those substances, or any other substance into the body; or

(B) having an alcohol concentration of 0.08 or more.
Notice that it can A OR B. This topic has been endlessly debated here. Typically the folks that don't drink at all anyhow will advise you not to drink at all. The folks that do drink will argue what "Intoxicated" means. The there are a few of us that like sit back a drink a beer to see how things pan out. :read:


Everyone makes there own choices, and these are only the choices I believe are correct for me.

At home- do what I want, drink what I want, carry all the time. A Gun is just like any other tool. I am not going to drink 6 beers and play with my chainsaw, but I won't let having a few beers keep me from using my chainsaw to free my family from a dangerous situation.

If I am going out to dinner- have my limit, stay safe, drive safe, carry all the time.

If I am going out "drinking" - lock my gun up, don't drive, don't carry. Beyond the 51% signage issue, there is just no reason to be in public, intoxicated, with a gun. I have zero worries about how I will handle myself, but I don't want to get in a wrestling match, shoving, or even a excited discussion with someone who can't handle there liquor and risk them getting a hold of my gun.



I made all these decisions years ago, and they have worked out pretty well...so far.

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