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ELB wrote: I suspect there is more to the Carter Albrecht story than has been adequately covered in the press, but I hesitate to judge that one. As a general rule, I would not recommend shooting at loud noises at the door.

elb

Actually - unfortunately - there is not...

Renegade wrote:

TC-TX wrote: MY POINT IS that - in and of itself - banging on your door does not constitute a crime.

I urge you to google "Carter Albrecht" and see how banging on the door, can be interpreted as a crime, and can lead to a justified homicide. I would not have believed it either. Now if you mean knocking on the door, or ringing the doorbell, I agree, but I would be very hesitant to bang on a stranger's door in the middle of the night.....

I am intimately aware of the Albrecht case - and IMO - that is NOT a justifiable case for the use of Deadly Force... although I am quite sure the shooter walks...

Albrecht only committed a violation if the homeowner gave him commands to exit his property. AND THEN it is still not a justifiable DF defense... IMO

We may never know the truth.

MY POINT REMAINS that - in and of itself - banging on your door does not constitute a crime.

Renegade wrote:

TC-TX wrote:

seamusTX wrote:

txinvestigator wrote:A person banging on my door is committing a crime?

§ 28.03. CRIMINAL MISCHIEF. (a) A person commits an offense if, without the effective consent of the owner:
(1) he intentionally or knowingly damages or destroys the tangible property of the owner;

Some finite number of bangs is going to bring the door down. It might be one or a million, depending upon the strength of the door and the banger, but each bang constitutes measureable damage.

HOLY COW - that is a S t r e t c h of Biblical Proportions!!! No wait - that is BullHockey!

Banging on door could also be construed as an attempt to break-in. Google "Carter Albrecht".

MY POINT IS that - in and of itself - banging on your door does not constitute a crime.

seamusTX wrote:

txinvestigator wrote:A person banging on my door is committing a crime?

§ 28.03. CRIMINAL MISCHIEF. (a) A person commits an offense if, without the effective consent of the owner:
(1) he intentionally or knowingly damages or destroys the tangible property of the owner;

Some finite number of bangs is going to bring the door down. It might be one or a million, depending upon the strength of the door and the banger, but each bang constitutes measureable damage.

HOLY COW - that is a S t r e t c h of Biblical Proportions!!! No wait - that is BullHockey!

You better hope you are never faced convicing a jury of that nonsense...

Furthermore, banging on a door is often a prelude to outright burglary.

Just exactly WHEN did you ever hear of a burgular who Knocks First???


Where do you get this stuff??? Is it April 1st?