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Cedar Park Dad wrote:

b322da wrote:

Cedar Park Dad wrote:Don't disagree.

I should hope not. I was quoting you, Dad.

Jim

Thats why i don't disagree.

Jim

Cedar Park Dad wrote:Don't disagree.

I should hope not. I was quoting you, Dad.

Jim

Cedar Park Dad wrote: ...State you will not physically resist but that you do not consent to any search. Keep politely saying the no consent part.

Very important that you include words to the effect of those underlined above.

Jim

The Annoyed Man wrote:...Jim is one or two years older than I am ( ) and I would be curious to know if his observations parallel mine....

I hate to say it TAM, but I am in complete agreement with your general proposition. I may differ here and there with your apparent conception of one or more of our rights/liberties/privileges, be they what they may, but, again, in general, we, despite all the sometimes contrasting humor, appear to agree on recent developments happening to my conception of our constitutional liberties.

And I'm not so old -- 4 score and functioning better than a lot of my juniors.

BTW, to get off the subject, as is my way, I have even just acquired a new handgun, which doubles as an old man car gun and carry gun -- A Bond Arms derringer (Made In Texas), along with a fine fitted holster which rides on the belt outside the WB, and the Bond lies parallel to the belt. For a righty like me I have yet to decide whether as a car gun it is handier on the right, or cross-draw on the left. Different, but an impressive piece of workmanship in stainless steel. Two barrels, one atop the other, mine being one a .410 buckshot, the other .45LC, both loaded with ammo intended for self-defense. Can swap the barrels out quickly for a .38,.357/.38,.357 enroute from Bond, intended for a little less expensive practice indoors, not being able, as you might expect, to fire buckshot indoors at my favorite range.

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I have to make a solo round-trip from College Station to North Carolina, to attend a smart car convention, 1000 miles each way, much in the boondocks on exciting back roads, in my exciting little smart car, through several states reciprocal with Texas on CHL, and I think I have found a car gun hard to beat.

Hang in there, youngster.

Jim

pcgizzmo wrote:Honestly I don't see the problem of allowing law enforcement to search your car... What is the harm in letting a law enforcement officer search your car if you don't have anything to hide?

Most respectfully, this is a prime example of how an innocent person can cause himself untold suffering. A similar example would be, "What is the harm in responding to law enforcement interrogation if you don't have anything to hide?" Time and again we have seen on this forum, for example, how one should generally keep his mouth shut if interrogated by law enforcement after he legally exercises his right of self-defense against an aggressor. The reasons for that advice should be known by all members here.

The Bill of Rights applies to everyone, not just those who have something to hide. Acquiescing in the transgression of one's right under the Constitution will lead inexorably to the end of that right.

Jim