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by Paladin
Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:05 pm
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Beiruty wrote: Sun Aug 09, 2020 9:11 pm It was reported the hole is 43m or 141 ft deep
I saw a number of 70m radius or well over 400ft diameter. It's a massive crater.

Trump offers to help Beirut investigate blast, calls for calm amid protests

Keeping Lebanon in my prayers.
by Paladin
Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:38 pm
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RoyGBiv wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:15 pm 1 MT = 1,000Kg = 2204.62 pounds.
2750 MT = 6.06 million pounds

I don't believe it is correct to equate atomic bomb yields which are measured in terms of equivalent weights of TNT (Kilotons). This would only be correct if the energy yielded by 1 measure of TNT is equal to the energy released by exploding the same measure of Ammonium Nitrate.

/pedant
The Relative effectiveness factor of Ammonium nitrate is 0.42 . So 1 ton of Ammonium nitrate is the equivalent of 0.42 tons TNT
by Paladin
Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:06 am
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Grayling813 wrote: Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:39 am Before and after picture of the explosion site. Huge crater. If the ammonium nitrate was on the floor of the warehouse at ground level, why did the explosion create a deep crater? Seems like the force of the blast at ground level would have completely collapsed the adjacent grain elevators.

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Grain silos are extraordinary difficult to destroy. At Stalingrad the Wehrmacht tried and failed to destroy Soviet grain silos. The Russians finally ran out of water and ammo and left the silos.
by Paladin
Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:23 am
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Beiruty wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:19 pm A response to a friend, I wrote on my FB page:
Yes, there was enormous amount of Ammonium Nitride, by state official 2750 tons of that mine explosive material.
The story so far, In 2014, a ship was intercepted (by who, who knows). The haul, a 2750 of high grade mining explosive were unload to warehouse 12 (why and who did what and what not?). 6 years later on August 4,2020 a fire started in warehouse 12, and rest is what you see on the net.
Another fact from the video, there was explosion of small arms ammunition in the warehouse 12 before the big explosion.
Speculation so far until proven by evidence: One or more airstrike targeted warehouse 12.
Note: A Lebanese official Army statement stated, all its military shipments are never ever stored in Beirut Seaport, but would be moved immediately to it designated storage houses elsewhere.
The rumor: Warehouse 12 is under the control of Hizbullah
What I've read agrees with that:

Al-Hadeth News Says MASSIVE Beirut Explosion Was Warehouse for Hezbollah
Hezbollah’s history of storing weapons in people’s homes and inside densely populated cities is well-documented by the United Nations, the Israeli military and Western news outlets, as well as international human rights groups.

According to the Israel Defense Forces, most homes in Shiite towns along the Lebanese border contain some kind of weapons cache, for guns, rockets or other materiel.

A satellite image released by the Israel Defense Forces showing three sites near Beirut’s international airport that the army says are being used by Hezbollah to convert regular missiles into precision-guided munitions, on September 27, 2018. (Israel Defense Forces)

In 2018, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu also revealed the locations of sites inside Beirut that he said Hezbollah was using to manufacture and store precision-guided missiles, including one next to Beirut’s Rafik Hariri airport.

By hiding its arsenals among civilians, the terror group likely hopes to use those people as human shields to prevent Israel from conducting strikes against them out of concerns for collateral damage.
-Times of Israel

Netanyahu warns Hezbollah amid high tensions along northern border
Last week, Israel also said it thwarted an infiltration attempt from Lebanon by Hezbollah operatives, setting off one of the heaviest exchanges of fire along the volatile Israel-Lebanon frontier since a 2006 war between the bitter enemies.

"We will do what is necessary in order to defend ourselves. I suggest to all of them, including Hezbollah, to consider this,” [Netanyahu] said.

Netanyahu added: “These are not vain words; they have the weight of the State of Israel and the IDF behind them and this should be taken seriously.”
by Paladin
Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:15 am
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Chaparral wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:36 pm
RoyGBiv wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:39 pm
mrvmax wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:22 pm All I can say is if it was ammonium nitrate something had to initiate the explosion.
What I’m saying is that I don’t believe it was just plain ammonium nitrate. If it was what initiated it? Just fire alone shouldn’t.
Didn’t a simple structure fire ignite the ammonium nitrate explosion in West, Tx, in 2013?
Town in shock over news that Texas fertilizer-plant explosion was deliberate
by Paladin
Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:58 am
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AP has some new photos

I estimate the crater as 400ft diameter.
by Paladin
Wed Aug 05, 2020 7:34 am
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It is sickening that in these difficult days a city and civilians would be attacked. A terrible and terrifying war crime that the attackers were almost certainly hoping to avoid blame. Sad and shocking.
by Paladin
Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:50 pm
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The videos are jaw dropping. Prayer's for those affected.

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