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I am so grateful that there is a choice other than 1911 and striker fired plastic. That there are guns that take advantage of both single or double action, , a gun that has pretty flat trajectory instead of a rainbow arc. A gun that can handle lead ball if I want. and can be field stripped without ant tools. No wierd double trigger thingy that is supposed to be a safety. (How does that thing make it safer? A gun that didn't need fluffing and buffing or tuning to make it reliable. Guns that are made in America by Americans for Americans, and not made by a bunch of democratic socialist.No grip safety cause you only need one lever that actually works.

Liberty

The Annoyed Man wrote: It's not that one pistol is better than the other. They are both great designs. But for "lowest common denominator" practicality, I'll take the Glock. At the range, I still have more fun shooting my 1911s.

Was a great post as usual, I have to admit I like shooting the 1911, but I never liked the idea of using one style gun as carry, and another for training .. Which is why I only own and shoot SA/DA with a hammer. I don't train that well and am concerned about confusing muscle memory, particularly in the draw and releasing safety motions (1911 is backwards Glock none). Do you make a thumb sweep on the missing Glock safety? A double action has a lot going for it when it comes to the beginners or lower common demoninator, but the addition of a mechanical safety that is common with most SA/DA makes holstering a little safer for people. Like I said before there is no one fits all, and no best. Its only what fits best to the particular shooter / toter.

Liberty

Soccerdad1995 wrote:I started with Glocks, and currently own 4 Glocks, 1 Kahr, 1 Kel-Tec, 2 S&W revolvers, and 3 1911's.

The top 5 guns on my wish list are all 1911's. Yes, the 1911 is prettier than a Glock, as long as the maker doesn't use the slide as an advertising billboard, but the main thing for me is accuracy. My Officers model 1911 is much more accurate than my Kahr PM9 or my Glock 26. And my full size 1911's are much more accurate than my Glock 21.

Also, maybe I have just been lucky, but I have never had reliability issues with any 1911. Then again, I do tend to spend a lot more for my 1911's than I do for my Glocks so that may be a part of it. The only gun that has ever had significant reliability issues (1%+ failure rate) was a Taurus PT 24/7 that is currently waiting to be sent back for recall. I would never carry any gun that was not near 100% reliability for me, after break-in.

Personally, here is how I would compare a Glock vs it's comparably sized 1911 counterpart in the areas that matter to me:

Reliability = Even (as noted, I personally have not had any issues with either)
Accuracy = 1911
Capacity = Glock (but this has to be balanced against the increased accuracy of the 1911)
Concealability = 1911
Appearance = 1911
Value for a limited budget = Glock*

For me, personally, this translates to the 1911 as my preferred platform. But I am also planning to hold on to my Glocks and continue to play around with those as well.

The reliabilty of a 1911 usually only becomes an issue with hollow point defense rounds, and shorter barreled versions.. I noticed you mentioned Break in .. A nice thing about non 1911s is that many don't really need a breakin and are reliable right out of the box. I do agree with your conclusions though, If forced to make a choice between the two, I would choose a 1911. Fortunately though there is a huge range of choices that are not neither Glock or 1911.

Liberty

C-dub wrote:I've always found it curious and wondered why some 1911 folks are always comparing their 1911's to Glocks or trying to convince others that they are better than Glocks, but Glock folks don't do the same. Is it envy, jealousy, or something else?

I always wondered why it's always Glocks vs 1911s .. There is a whole lot of guns that aren't either.. and a whole lot of SA/DAs that don't work anything like either.

Liberty

I never understood the emotional attachments to the 1911. a 100 year old design that has a reputation for being finnicky. Are they pretty? I suppose so, but installed in a proper holster who will notice? Its a tool, such an attachment to a penknife or electric drill wouldn't be concidered normal.

I can understand a preference for a 1911, a Glock or any other platform... But the emotional attachment and reverence for these things don't make sense to me Any hand gun, is an engineering compromise. some of these compromises may be in safety, capacity and firepower, reliability, ease of carry including availability of holsters).

What bothers me about the fanboism of the 1911 is how it affects newbies. I don't believe the 1911s are an ideal choice for most newbies. Too expensive, to picky, to complicated. and usually too heavy. I don't mean to demean the 1911 there are some mighty fine ones out there, and triggers are sure nice, they sure are pretty. and there are lot of gun people a lot smarter than me that prefer them.

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