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roberts wrote:

Liberty wrote:

roberts wrote:

Liberty wrote:I am not willing to throw veterans or Military folks under the bus, just so I can carry in a couple extra states.

It just wouldn't be right/

Why are you willing to throw college students and nurses and waitresses under the bus? How is that right?

The difference is its not us Texans that are throwing the visitors to other states under the bus.

No. Instead you're eagerly throwing Texans under the bus.

You endorsed denying the right to keep and bear arms to a nurse because she's a civilian nurse instead of a military nurse. The same for a civilian EMT or fire fighter.

To ask our young people to save the lives of other people every day, and then deny them the most effective tools to save their own lives, is so far out on the hypocrisy scale, its not even worth discussing. Just my thoughts.

Actually yes! The military have proven a certain sacrifice and are trained in firearms. They have chosen to serve. The nurse can always stay home in Texas. It isn't us Texans that are banning carry in these renegade states. But the states themselves. Making bad laws to overcome another states bad laws isn't the answer. The States banninig Texans are the problem and are the ones that should to change the rules. Thare are
Sorry but those who don't serve just don't get the extra respect that those who do serve. Might not be fair, but then know one ever said life was fair. Those that have served understand. Those that stay home can never fully understand.
There are about 30 states that have been able find their way to allow us Texans to carry in their states. It would be close to treasonous to ban our service people to carry just so we can all carry in the rebellious states. Are we so unwilling to to sacrifice for those who are willing to sacrifice their all

Charles L. Cotton wrote: I also don't recall when the age limit was reduced to 18 for active military, but if it was as early as 2003 (I don't believe it was) then I estimate the total CHL's under age 21 to be 170. This number is based upon actual CHL's issued in 2006 (19), 2007 (47) and 2008 (36) used collectively to get an average of 34 per year and adding twice that number (for 2005 and 2004) to the 2006-2008 total of 102 to get 170.


Chas.

Sorry old thread I know, but ...

The problem with your math is that the under 21 over 18 year olds turn 21 rather quickly. Almost all of those under 21 who were issued CHLs would be 21 or older by 2008.

jack010203 wrote:
I would obviously prefer that all 18 yr olds be allowed to get there CHL, and since we are supposedly loosing reciprocity from allowing some 18yrs now why not let them all?

an 18 year old service member has had firearms and safety training and prove to some extent that he has some discipline. More so than most 21 year olds who have not served.
While I wouldn't be opposed to letting 18 year olds be allowed to CHLS, It would be pretty much a certainty that we would lose more than the 4 we don't have.

roberts wrote:

Liberty wrote:I am not willing to throw veterans or Military folks under the bus, just so I can carry in a couple extra states.

It just wouldn't be right/

Why are you willing to throw college students and nurses and waitresses under the bus? How is that right?

The difference is its not us Texans that are throwing the visitors to other states under the bus. It is just a couple of states that don't seem to have much respect for people protecting our lives.
Most of these states there are other alternatives to allow carrying. A New Hampshire non resident license is pretty easy to get, I believe a Utah Permit will cover Nevada, I don't like it that I can't carry in a couple of these states either, but I look at it as the price of freedom.

To ask our young people to take up arms against a foreign enemy, and then deny them the right to take up arms to defend themselves in their own state, is so far out on the hypocrisy scale its not even worth discussing. Just my thoughts.

'nuff said

FlynJay wrote:I wonder how many Texas residents under the age of 21 have permits. Are we limiting our reciprocity for just a handful of people or is there significant numbers there? We should find out if those states that are not granting because of age will if we removed the 21 age exception. Maybe get something prepared for the 2011 legislative session.

I am not willing to throw veterans or Military folks under the bus, just so I can carry in a couple extra states.

It just wouldn't be right/