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by Liberty
Sun Mar 29, 2009 7:00 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: looking for first 1911
Replies: 25
Views: 3289

Re: looking for first 1911

srothstein wrote:
Liberty wrote:a 1911 is a .45 Cal 9mm isn't even an American caliber. JMB wouldn't dream of using a European Caliber.
Hmmm, tell me again who designed the Hipower? ;-)


As for the original questions, my opinions are a little less strict. As with many other "cults", there are always variations in the liturgical interpretations.

I think of 1911 to include a lot of variations. Some are not exactly like the original or the A1, but they are generally there. I will recognize the Para-ordnance LDA the older Cotl double action as variants of the 1911 and include them in the group unless we are getting technical.

On the shootability, I think the size of the grips, the single action trigger, and the grip angle all contribute. The height of the barrel over the hand probably also should be taken into account. I have never tried to figure that part out and Keith may be correct about it being other parts also and the overall design. I just know it works, and works well.
It turns out that JMB did some preliminary work on the High Power, The design isn't completly his, although the concept may be
Wiki wrote: The Browning Hi-Power is a single-action, 9 mm semi-automatic pistol. It is based on ideas conceived and patented in 1922 by American firearms inventor John Browning, and later patented by Fabrique Nationale (FN) of Herstal, Belgium. Browning died in 1926, before he had finished developing a production version. The design was fully developed and realized by Belgian arms designer Dieudonne Saive, working at FN.
I thought FN just ripped the ideas directly off the 1911. learn somehing new every day.
by Liberty
Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:24 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: looking for first 1911
Replies: 25
Views: 3289

Re: looking for first 1911

surprise_i'm_armed wrote: Q3. Does the type of action have to match the original JMB models?
Q4. Is the "shootability" feel of the gun due to their single stack mags making for a slimmer grip?
I have accurately shot a Ruger semi-automatic P89 and have loved the feel of the grip since Rugers seem slimmer
than most other handguns. I have also handled Ruger SR-9's at gun shows and they also feel good in
my average size hands.

School me on the 1911 cult.

"At the end of a shooting incident, all discussions of tactics, barrel length, calibers, and ammo selection will pale in comparison
to the reality of who was not breathing, and who was able to continue with his life."
I am a big fan the Ruger P series but I Wouldn't consider it a 1911 style by any means.

a 1911 is a .45 Cal 9mm isn't even an American caliber. JMB wouldn't dream of using a European Caliber.

A 1911 is a Single action Hand gun The P89 wors in Double Action an d Single action mode.

A 1911 has Slab sides A Ruger has molded plastic or rubber grips

A 1911 Has a select safety and a grip safety, A p89 has a firing pin block a select safety .

A new P89 goes for about $400 a 1911 costs $700 and up

A P89 has the safety on the slide and is ambidextrous a 1911 works well for right handers.

A 1911 is pretty

No one Worships Bill Ruger

Hope this helps

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