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by Liberty
Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:55 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Got a ticket-strange traffic stop-update...Chiefs Response
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Re: Got a ticket...strange traffic stop.

I am sorry if I offended any one, but the truth is I have seen officers and defendants both caught in lies by in traffic court and nothing happened. I am sorry if some find that fact offensive. I meant no personal attacks, and was only recalling what I have personally observed.

I am kind of surprised by the reaction, I thought most people understood how JP courts work. I've been a couple of times as juror, witness and defendant. I never saw any justice. Others millage may have varied, but I can only report on my experiences.

I definitely believe that CHL/LEO is one of the good guys, and I certainly didn't mean to offend him. Apparently abusive ticketing is a sore spot with some people and I promise not to bring it up again.
by Liberty
Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:13 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Got a ticket-strange traffic stop-update...Chiefs Response
Replies: 110
Views: 13043

Re: Got a ticket...strange traffic stop.

gregthehand wrote: On another note the asking about if you have an excuse, emergency etc etc is a tactic taught in the Academy (at least it was for me). You bascially ask them if they have an excuse why they would be speeding. Now that's a loaded question, think about it how it could go.

"Do you have any reason why you were driving that fast?"
"No I don't have an excuse"
"So then you acknowledge that you were speeding."

The best thing when they ask that questions to say is something like "I didn't think I was speeding." Notice you didn't say you were speeding, play into their trap, or start an argument. You just said you didn't think you were.

Anyway this is again just my observation. :tiphat:
Its been my experience that by the time it goes to court the LEO really has forgotten and will say anything to get the conviction. I've sat through a few cases as defendant juror, and just as an observer. Everyone lies no one is ever held accountable, No one seems to get punnished even when proven its a red face lie. IN JP Court. The LEOs The Balliff The Judge and the Prosecutor are like family with each other .. The Defendant and his lawyer are the outsiders, and one productive cop can bring in a lot of money to pay these salaries. The other thing I've noticed is that the defendant never seems to win, having a lawyer just means that the lawyer gets a chunk. At least that is how it works in Galveston and Brazoria counties.

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