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ELB wrote:

Charles L. Cotton wrote:I don't like the Clintons in the least, but they are a politically savvy couple. In view of the sharply declining support for gun control among citizens (not liberals in office) in the U.S. , I'm more than a little surprised that she would make such a statement. I would have thought that she would have learned from his husband's gross miscalculation on the assault weapons ban in 1994.

Chas.

True, but Bill is by far the more politically savvy of the two. While Bill is able to cultivate the image of lovable rogue in public, Hillary can't keep her essential coldness, vindictiveness, and feeling of superiority from showing through. She's just not as smart as Bill. She may have a higher tested IQ, but she does not really understand people, at least people who don't think like she does. I think both of them are sociopathic, but Bill understands how to manipulate people's levers much better. She would have gone no where if she hadn't married Bill. That statement that will make the left/feminists froth at the mouth, but it's true. Remember, as a young lawyer in Washington DC she was fired from the commission that was preparing to impeach Nixon for lying and unethical behavior for hiding official congressional files that would have helped Nixon, and writing a brief that falsified congressional history of impeachments. (Note that Wikipedia omits this.) It was an early indicator of her frame of mind, and her contempt for others.

It wasn't that being a woman would have held her back, it's that she is only true to her own ambitions, and will do any slimey thing, and throw slime at anyone else, to get her way. Bill is slimey too, but he hides it behind the facade of being a happy friendly caring guy. Hillary has all the warmth of a mafia hit man, and I think she can't help occasionally letting her disdain break out when she is talking about her "enemies." (IIRC she was the originator of the term "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy"). The fact that she's actually incompetent at leading (see, for example, first attempt at government take over of healthcare, entire tour as Secretary of State) may be starting to tell. There's no doubt a bunch of Demo true believers that will support her no matter what, but I think there are a lot of others that are thinking OMG how do we get her out of the way. Last time it was racism -- "let's push the black guy instead of the woman, she can't effectively campaign against that".

I'm sure she regards her statement as measured common sense, but the driving factor behind it is she can't stand that these people, these inferior-liberty-loving-gun-toting-Constitution-quoting rubes, have made such political strides in the past 20 years. Privately owned guns are a symbol of everything she hates, that gets in the way of her superior comprehension of how to run the world. It doesn't compute that her side has been losing on this, so she has to say something (and rile up her base), but her disdain and vindictiveness doesn't let her see that what's "common sense" to her just exposes her totalitarian tilt.

gthaustex wrote:IMHO Hillary has gotten way out of balance....

http://news.yahoo.com/hillary-clinton-g ... ction.html

She says "the U.S. needs to rein in the notion that anybody can have a gun, anywhere, anytime."

The former secretary of state and potential 2016 Democratic presidential candidate said the idea that anyone can have a gun is not in the "best interest of the vast majority of people." But she said that approach does not conflict with the rights of people to own firearms

She has obviously never talked to the large number of people who use firearms for self-defense and as usual, continues to focus on the headline incidents.

Something else she said also floored me. While talking about recent shootings involving loud music or texting she said,

"That's what happens in the countries I've visited where there is no rule of law and no self-control and that is something that we cannot just let go without paying attention,"

That's quite a statement coming from her, considering her background, recent Secretary of State activities and the current administration.