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I've been following the responses closely and it is causing me to have much to think about. I don't typically walk around with a preschooler and a senior citizen, but I think that was a good approximation of the kinds of real-world scenarios many people could face. I'm very grateful for the conversation as iron sharpens iron and I have a considerable amount more to think about now.

Thank you all!

gigag04 wrote:Alternate rounds between the two until the threat stops.

How would that work for the Cedar Park scenario? Woman is in a car with gunmen on either side and a roadblock in front of her. Will you walk me through it as you'd see it, please?

03Lightningrocks wrote:

USA1 wrote:Run like the wind.

Nailed It!!!

And ditch Grandma?

Let's take the convenience store example from this thread: Good Videos of Two Dallas Robberies...

Woman is transporting Grandma to her doctor's office when Grandma announces that she has to go NOW. Woman pulls off and passes a few run down looking gas stations hoping to find a busy fast food restaurant, but there aren't any around and Grandma's threats are increasing with each place they pass. She chooses a nice looking gas station and gets Grandma out. She weighs which will be faster--Grandma's wheelchair or walker--and chooses the walker because then the woman's arms are free to hold the preschooler at all times. The three of them go in to the gas station and Grandma takes forever going. The woman maintains awareness as numerous people come and go and they're finally on their way to the door. As they reach the front of the store, two of the customers pull weapons. One is primarily covering the clerk who is being ordered to empty the cash register while the other is primarily covering the customers (all of whom were in positions to flee except the woman and her family who just happened to be caught between them), but the gunmen are a tad erratic and pointing everywhere. They're now in the position of the customer in the first video. (That customer chose to lie down prone on the ground with his hands over his head, IIRC.)

So what can the woman do? She has a preschooler on her hip who is heavy enough to need two hands to hold up for any length of time and is really getting too big to carry. She can access her concealed handgun, but can't quickly or easily handle the gun, carrying a preschooler one-handed, and run. She doesn't want to put down the heavy preschooler who won't be able to run as fast as she can and she can't run and leave Grandma, anyway. If she shoots at one, both gunmen will shoot back at her and her family who are now sitting ducks. It seems like she can't win as soon as the second gunman is introduced. What would the experts recommend a person in this situation do?

There've been a number of threads lately in which there were 2 assailants with guns flanking a victim. This creates a conflict on drawing and shooting because shooting one leaves you open to being shot at by both. I know there are self-defense handbooks out there which a number of people here have read. My list of books I need to read is already pretty extensive, so I'm unlikely to get to Ayoob's or similar books any time soon. I'm hoping those of you with knowledge and/or experience will share some primers on how to handle a situation when a victim is flanked by two or more gunmen, especially when the victim has others such as children or dependent elderly with him or her.

Robbers set trap for Cedar Park drivers.......
Gunmen on either side of a woman's vehicle as she pulls up to her subdivision, the entrance of which the gunmen blocked by landscaping pavers.

Good Videos of Two Dallas Robberies...
In one robbery, the gunmen are right and left of the store clerk and a customer is caught in between. In the other robbery, one gunman is in front of the counter and one is behind.

My Daughter Was Mugged
Woman confronted by two armed masked men at night in a parking lot as she's getting out of her car. They'd blocked her vehicle in with their own.

Milam Co.: Woman killed over Mustang car
Woman answered her door to two teens and a shotgun blast, which was closely followed by a second shot. The teens murdered her in order to steal her vehicle.