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by Hoi Polloi
Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:26 pm
Forum: Site Announcements, Questions & Suggestions
Topic: Valid Signs
Replies: 36
Views: 6539

Re: Valid Signs

I understand what you're saying: They're making it clear to you that they don't want guns there and even though you might be able to legally carry there, you don't think it is prudent to do so when you understand their intent. Your thought process is that any way that could end would not be positive, so why risk it? Right?

I think there's a completely different way of thinking about it, which is what someone above described. Most people aren't thinking the same thing as you regarding, "My gun isn't wanted here and this could only end poorly." and then deciding, "Let them try me!" or "Maybe they won't see."

I think it is more akin to, "I carry in order to protect myself. I don't know when I'll need it, and hope to never need it, but I carry as often as I can because I don't want to need it and not have it. Can I legally carry here? Their sign is non-compliant so I can. OK, another place I don't have to disarm and take that chance." If you then asked these people, "But what about them not wanting you to carry there?" you'd probably get a blank stare. What the store wants wasn't a factor for them. "What would you do if they made you and told you to leave?" "I'd leave. Duh." "Why not just avoid going in in the first place?" "Why would I do that? I wanted to go in. I'm able to go in. I went in to get the doo-dad my wife needed from that store. I'm living my life and doing what I would have done, but now I'm able to protect myself doing it. Why not just keep it better concealed so being made isn't an issue?"

It's a completely different thought process from the start.
by Hoi Polloi
Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:49 am
Forum: Site Announcements, Questions & Suggestions
Topic: Valid Signs
Replies: 36
Views: 6539

Re: Valid Signs

austinrealtor wrote:
Hoi Polloi wrote:And the valid sign picture should have block letters (all caps) pointed out because that's a requirement as well which doesn't get much air play.
A requirement that the sign be in all caps is not included in the statute. "Block letters" is not the same as "all caps". Block letters generally just means no cursive or script style of type font.

Of course the "legal definition" of block letters is up to courts/judges and interpretation, but here's a start:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Block_letters" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

As long as the sign is not hand-written and not written in some difficult-to-decipher type font (like "Old English" or similar), I don't believe it matters if it's written with both upper case and lower case letters.
Interesting. The DPS website's official wording of how a sign must look includes all caps and then points out that what is shown may not be used as a sign because it does not meet the other requirements of size, color, etc.
by Hoi Polloi
Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:44 pm
Forum: Site Announcements, Questions & Suggestions
Topic: Valid Signs
Replies: 36
Views: 6539

Re: Valid Signs

And the valid sign picture should have block letters (all caps) pointed out because that's a requirement as well which doesn't get much air play.

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