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by 68Charger
Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:47 am
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Re: What's your EDC knife?

C-dub wrote:
68Charger wrote:
LSUTiger wrote:Cold Steel Voyager XL Tanto Folder (5.5")

As for as I know it might be legal in SA? Discuss.

Sec. 21-17. Certain knives prohibited generally; exceptions; penalty for violation.
(a) It shall be unlawful for any person to intentionally or knowingly carry on or about his person a knife with a blade less than five and one-half (5 1/2) inches in length, which knife is equipped with a lock mechanism so that upon opening, it becomes a fixed blade knife.
(b) The above prohibition set forth in subsection (a) shall not be applicable to a person carrying such a knife:
(1) In the actual discharge of his duties as a peace officer, a member of the armed forces or national guard, or a guard employed by a penal institution;
(2) On his own premises or premises under his control;
(3) Traveling;
(4) Engaged in lawful hunting, fishing or other lawful sporting activity; or
(5) Using such a knife in connection with a lawful occupation, during such utilization.
Sec. 21-155. Possession of knife.
It shall be unlawful for any person under the age of seventeen (17) to possess or carry any knife on a public roadway or public right-of-way; on any other property in which a governmental entity has an interest; or on private property without the permission of the owner or the person in control of the property within the city limits of the City of San Antonio.

It's has a 5.5" blade so it is not less than 5.5 " so I am sure it can also have a locking blade which it does.

(6) “Illegal Knife” means a:
(A) knife with a blade over five and one half inches;
Rainer v. State, 763 S.W.2d 615 (Tex. App.-Eastland 1989, pet. ref’d) To determine
length, measure entire length of blade past handle, not just the sharpened portion of the
blade. Same result in McMurrough v. State, 995 S.W.2d 944 (Tex. App.-Ft. Worth 1999).
(B) hand instrument designed to cut or stab another by being thrown;
Albert v. State, 659 S.W.2d 41 (Tex. App.-Houston [14
th
Dist.] 1983, pet. ref’d) Martial
arts throwing star qualifies as “a hand instrument designed to cut or stab another by being
thrown”.
(C) dagger including but not limited to a dirk, stiletto, and poniard;
Armendariz v. State, 396 S.W.2d 132 (Tex. Crim. App. 1965) A knife slightly over seven
inches in length when open, equipped with a double guard, blade that locks open and is
sharpened on both sides of blade for over an inch meets the definition of a dagger.
(D) bowie knife; Mireles v. State, 192 S.W. 241 (Tex. Crim. App. 1917) A knife in a scabbard with a blade
nine inches long and a handle four or five inches long described as a butcher knife was
embraced in the term “bowie knife” as defined by the Penal Code.
(E) sword; or
(F) spear.
(7) “Knife” means any bladed hand instrument that is capable of inflicting serious
bodily injury or death by cutting or stabbing a person with the instrument.

It's not over 5.5", so it doesnt break Texas law.

Is this a legal loophole?
It's a lock blade. So no.
Why do you say this? It's not over 5.5", so it's okay according to the state. And it's not under 5.5", which is San Antonio's qualifier for their prohibition of locking blades. They don't have an outright ban on locking blades. However, I do agree that YMMV. :thumbs2:
Haha.. Yeah, I'm not one to rage against the machine. I'll sit on the sidelines on this one. I sure as heck would rather spend my money on guns and ammo than a lawyer. ;p :mrgreen:
by 68Charger
Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:13 am
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Topic: What's your EDC knife?
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Re: What's your EDC knife?

LSUTiger wrote:Cold Steel Voyager XL Tanto Folder (5.5")

As for as I know it might be legal in SA? Discuss.

Sec. 21-17. Certain knives prohibited generally; exceptions; penalty for violation.
(a) It shall be unlawful for any person to intentionally or knowingly carry on or about his person a knife with a blade less than five and one-half (5 1/2) inches in length, which knife is equipped with a lock mechanism so that upon opening, it becomes a fixed blade knife.
(b) The above prohibition set forth in subsection (a) shall not be applicable to a person carrying such a knife:
(1) In the actual discharge of his duties as a peace officer, a member of the armed forces or national guard, or a guard employed by a penal institution;
(2) On his own premises or premises under his control;
(3) Traveling;
(4) Engaged in lawful hunting, fishing or other lawful sporting activity; or
(5) Using such a knife in connection with a lawful occupation, during such utilization.
Sec. 21-155. Possession of knife.
It shall be unlawful for any person under the age of seventeen (17) to possess or carry any knife on a public roadway or public right-of-way; on any other property in which a governmental entity has an interest; or on private property without the permission of the owner or the person in control of the property within the city limits of the City of San Antonio.

It's has a 5.5" blade so it is not less than 5.5 " so I am sure it can also have a locking blade which it does.

(6) “Illegal Knife” means a:
(A) knife with a blade over five and one half inches;
Rainer v. State, 763 S.W.2d 615 (Tex. App.-Eastland 1989, pet. ref’d) To determine
length, measure entire length of blade past handle, not just the sharpened portion of the
blade. Same result in McMurrough v. State, 995 S.W.2d 944 (Tex. App.-Ft. Worth 1999).
(B) hand instrument designed to cut or stab another by being thrown;
Albert v. State, 659 S.W.2d 41 (Tex. App.-Houston [14
th
Dist.] 1983, pet. ref’d) Martial
arts throwing star qualifies as “a hand instrument designed to cut or stab another by being
thrown”.
(C) dagger including but not limited to a dirk, stiletto, and poniard;
Armendariz v. State, 396 S.W.2d 132 (Tex. Crim. App. 1965) A knife slightly over seven
inches in length when open, equipped with a double guard, blade that locks open and is
sharpened on both sides of blade for over an inch meets the definition of a dagger.
(D) bowie knife; Mireles v. State, 192 S.W. 241 (Tex. Crim. App. 1917) A knife in a scabbard with a blade
nine inches long and a handle four or five inches long described as a butcher knife was
embraced in the term “bowie knife” as defined by the Penal Code.
(E) sword; or
(F) spear.
(7) “Knife” means any bladed hand instrument that is capable of inflicting serious
bodily injury or death by cutting or stabbing a person with the instrument.

It's not over 5.5", so it doesnt break Texas law.

Is this a legal loophole?
It's a lock blade. So no. Though I've carry plenty of lock blades (look at my pic in this thread) and I work with the public. I talk to plenty of SAPD and show my knife a lot around them (when applicable) and gotten plenty of comments on them liking it (SOG Vulcan) and have never had any trouble with them. So, it's a YMMV thing.

Also when I was at oyster bake, I had left my gun at home and took the park and ride. When I go to St. Mary's I forgot I had my knife on me when they waved the metal detector. They saw it and showed it to fellow officers asking where I got it. They gave it back and told me to have fun. I don't know if because a lot of DHS was there and they thought it was safe or what? (This was shortly after the whole Boston thing happened)

Just proceed with caution.
by 68Charger
Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:25 am
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That ZT is beautiful. What's the name of it? I know its Zero Tolerance, but what model?
by 68Charger
Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:06 am
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Oh c'mon! I know more of y'all carry knives! Let's see some pics of those beauties!
by 68Charger
Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:13 am
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Re: What's your EDC knife?

I thought I'd resurrect an old thread. Since I didn't want to just start a new thread (though I should, considering this is 2 years old now) so here it is.

(Left side)Top to bottom:
Bear and Sons Butterfly Knife: Never use it, but it's American made and a great fondling knife
Sog Seal Pup: I keep this at my house and never use it, but it looks great
Sog Field Pup: I use this occasionally for when I go out of town and need a decent knife to cook with. Also use when I camp.
KaBar 2752: My father's old knife - well, one like it. My father carried this knife since before I was born and I liked it so much growing up, I bought one on eBay to have for myself.

Left to right:

Benchmade 9000s AFO: I got this from my uncle and just recently started carrying it. A bit too heavy for EDC, but I carry it on occasions.
Benchmade 551: I just got this one, and I love it. I'm going to start carrying it more often.
Sog Vulcan: I carry this a lot, actually. This knife is plain beautiful and I love this black TiNi finish on it. It feels just incredible and worth it's weight.
Sog Flash II: I usually carry this at work. This is great for everyday tasks and I really don't mind if I get rough with.
Sog Visionary: I love this knife. I love it so much, I'm afraid to carry it. It's just so beautiful and I love the blade shape. If I don't start using it soon, I'm more than likely going to sell it.
Sog Xray Mini: This is my first Sog knife. This knife I fell in love with and got it when I worked at the warehouse when I was 17. This has been with me for over a decade. Still sharp and no matter how bad I treated this knife, it always held its own.

I have more knives that aren't shown. These are the ones that I have at my apartment. My other ones are at my father's house in my old room.

I love SOG, as you can see. I don't like their (I know I'm going to get a lot of flack for this) Aegis, Trident, Twitch, and more of the commonly used ones out there. They're just not for me.

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