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by cyphur
Fri Oct 27, 2017 11:15 am
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Topic: Closing Tax Loopholes is Treason
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Re: Closing Tax Loopholes is Treason

ninjabread wrote:
cyphur wrote:
KLB wrote:Keeping deductibility in place means those of us in places with low state and local tax burdens pay more federal income tax, thereby subsidizing the taxpayers of places such as New York. No wonder Cuomo is so worked up.
So you're OK with letting some of our citizens getting taxed twice?
If the politicians in New York are opposed to double taxation of income, they can change their tax laws to allow residents to deduct Federal income tax and FICA on their state income tax returns. See, that was easy.

The Federal government should bend around the State, not the other way around. This is a very similar slope, slippery as it is, as we discuss other issues with the Feds, et al.

I am not advocating that NY's tax strategy/rules/laws are solid. I don't have to deal with them. What I do have issues with is not advocating a path that maintain's State's rights when it comes to managing their own citizens.
by cyphur
Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:15 pm
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Topic: Closing Tax Loopholes is Treason
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Re: Closing Tax Loopholes is Treason

KLB wrote:Keeping deductibility in place means those of us in places with low state and local tax burdens pay more federal income tax, thereby subsidizing the taxpayers of places such as New York. No wonder Cuomo is so worked up.
So you're OK with letting some of our citizens getting taxed twice?

We pay lower sales tax, lower property tax, and no income tax. We can still deduct the sales tax and property tax, so how exactly is it any different? They're paying income tax to their state instead of the Feds.

Double taxation on income is not cool. No matter what state you live in.
by cyphur
Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:26 am
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Topic: Closing Tax Loopholes is Treason
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Re: Closing Tax Loopholes is Treason

chasfm11 wrote:
cyphur wrote:
Perhaps you should amend your statement to "NYC". Since 99% of the state is NOT in league with the socialist 1%'ers the story focuses on. Most of the state is country and full of good people. Most of them refused to turn in their guns, too.

Coming from a native NY'er who knew bigger rednecks in NY then I've ever seen in Texas.
The same may probably be said for Illinois and California where the major cities seem to control everything and there are a lot of good folks in the non-urban areas. I'm familiar with upstate NY but would suggest that the differences between Buffalo and NYC are probably not all that great. There are rednecks in NJ and MD, too, particularly on the Eastern Shore but they are heavily outweighed by Baltimore regarding taxes and attitudes about guns.
The seat of power is indeed NYC and therein lies the problem with many NY laws. It is the power of the few infringing the rights of the many. Living near Lake Placid almost guarantees your voice isn't heard in the circles of power.

It also means you probably aren't giving up your guns or paying attention to the fools in NYC.
by cyphur
Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:45 am
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Topic: Closing Tax Loopholes is Treason
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Re: Closing Tax Loopholes is Treason

flechero wrote:
chasfm11 wrote:
flechero wrote:Closer to treasonous would be frivolously squandering the tax dollars, most of which come from those you aim to further penalize. I'd love to see a bunch of the 1%ers move across the line to NJ and put NY in the same budgetary hole as CA.
That is probably not a viable alternate for the NYers.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/01/busi ... dered.html

I don't think that you can get a thin dime between NJ and NJ on the subject of tax grabbing. Man of the 1% have already moved to FL.
I agree and was just wishing financial hardship on ny, :oops: not implying nj was better. (thinking many already live across the line and commute in to work)
Perhaps you should amend your statement to "NYC". Since 99% of the state is NOT in league with the socialist 1%'ers the story focuses on. Most of the state is country and full of good people. Most of them refused to turn in their guns, too.

Coming from a native NY'er who knew bigger rednecks in NY then I've ever seen in Texas.

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