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mojo84 wrote:

canvasbck wrote:

Taypo wrote:

MeMelYup wrote:

mojo84 wrote:

oljames3 wrote:

mojo84 wrote:Why not just lay low until after January 1? The business owners will see it isn't a big deal and the OC proponents will see not that many companies will make a big deal of it.

If OC proponents keep pushing for a decision before 1/1, the results will not be in our favor. Once 1/1 comes and there is an issue, we can deal with it then in an appropriate manner.

Please clarify what you mean by "OC proponent".

Thanks.

People that support open carry.

That is most of the people on this board. Are you meaning the people pushing "Constitutional Carry" and won't settle for anything else?

I'd be real careful with the term "most" in this context. Most of us are 2a supporters and of the belief that any progress is a win for gun rights, but there may not be as many people jumping on the OC bandwagon as you think. Honestly, the more certain people rail on it, the more people are realizing they don't want to be in that particular demographic. Keep forcing our favorite restaurants and businesses to make decisions about guns and there will be even less than there are now.

And there in lies the rub. If "resonable and responsible" gun owners shun OC because they are afraid of being associated with the fringe fanatics, then the only time the public will see someone carrying a firearm, it will by by the fringe fanatics. This would lead to the fringe representing/defining the entire community.

Actually,the rub comes from people trying to force a business to accept open carry in their place of business. No one is advocating normal people going about their normal activities shunning open carry. If you read through the thread, you'll see there are a few that are wanting to punish WB into allowing open carry by threatening boycott or by uncovering their gun for spite after they've been served.

I think what is actually being shunned are inappropriate tactics and actions that do more damage than good.

Taypo wrote:

MeMelYup wrote:

mojo84 wrote:

oljames3 wrote:

mojo84 wrote:Why not just lay low until after January 1? The business owners will see it isn't a big deal and the OC proponents will see not that many companies will make a big deal of it.

If OC proponents keep pushing for a decision before 1/1, the results will not be in our favor. Once 1/1 comes and there is an issue, we can deal with it then in an appropriate manner.

Please clarify what you mean by "OC proponent".

Thanks.

People that support open carry.

That is most of the people on this board. Are you meaning the people pushing "Constitutional Carry" and won't settle for anything else?

I'd be real careful with the term "most" in this context. Most of us are 2a supporters and of the belief that any progress is a win for gun rights, but there may not be as many people jumping on the OC bandwagon as you think. Honestly, the more certain people rail on it, the more people are realizing they don't want to be in that particular demographic. Keep forcing our favorite restaurants and businesses to make decisions about guns and there will be even less than there are now.

AggieDad15 wrote:Lots of beating dead horses here on all sides. I think everyone who disagrees will always disagree.

I think what POed most people the most about Whataburger's decision, was their decision to politicize it - to pander to the liberal Mommies and leftists with this announcement - but yet trying to play both sides of the fence by saying CHL was OK.

I don't know about you guys and gals, but I don't much like politics, especially when it comes from a two-faced corporation who is trying to have it both ways or entertainers like the Dixie Chicks who bash our president in Europe.

This letter, as posted by ziravan on FreeRepublic, pretty much sums up my feelings on this.

My letter to Whataburger:

I normally eat at least one meal a week at one of your locations. I will not patronize Whataburger again until you officially cease your attack on gun rights in Texas.

You made a political statement with your announcement on open carry. I will make mine and exclude you from the list of businesses where I spend my hard earned money.

In some ways, I might even agree with you. I conceal carry and would not think to open carry, even after it becomes legal. I can see from where your concerns come. Nevertheless, timing is everything and by being first, loudest, and uniquely Texan, you are trading off your business model to send a political message.

Whether I agree that open carry is right for me or your business, I support it politically. The timing and nature of your statement on open carry goes beyond your private property rights; you’ve sent a political message and one where we disagree.

So, because you unilaterally decided to place politics between us, I have no choice but to respond in kind. Until you remove the politics you placed between us, we are opponents and I can no longer financially support a business who doesn’t see the common sense in keeping politics from ruining our relationship.

80 posted on 7/13/2015, 2:39:21 PM by ziravan (Choose Sides.)



As for me, their decision to announce this to the world in a patronizing move to the liberals, instead of just quietly posting a 3007 on January 1, will lose my life-long business forever. If they had been quiet and just posted a 3007 on Jan 1, but no 3006, I probably wouldn't have objected much. As for you, you can do whatever you please.

steveincowtown wrote:
Also, if you don't think there is bit of a strategy when a company interjects themselves into current news, you may have missed that day is Marketing 101. Don't know about ya'll but Whataburger has been part of the local news cycle in my area for days. Pure free advertising.

K.Mooneyham wrote:I would guess that this policy by Whataburger is a direct result of the antics and buffoonary displayed by CJ, Kory, and all their little pals. They've put a bad idea out there surrounding open carry, so much so that even some folks on this forum are equating anyone who would OC with those types. I can't get mad at Whataburger, but I am quite upset and annoyed by the rabid OC types who've done so much to create this mess. All we can do is follow the law, be good citizens, and practice carrying responsibly according to the situation. Hopefully the brouhaha will die down at some point in the future.

Jim Beaux wrote:I have a problem here.

Im not a fan of OC & dont plan to ever OC - but the reality is Whataburger is infringing on 2A rights - and some here are ok with it cuz it doesnt directly affect them....AT THIS TIME...

"Then they came for me"