Overall, I was not upset, and like you said, if I was going to be disarmed, I would prefer the way that this officer handled it. Hopefully next time he won't feel the need to disarm me.....esxmarkc wrote:I guess I don't agree with may of the sentiments posted so far. I believe both you and the officer acted properly given the situation. Let's face it, he felt the need for you to be disarmed. Who knows why? But it sounds as if he did so in a very courteous and professional manner. And just because you say you are CHL doesn't mean you are a CHL. And given he was alone in this situation in a not-so-nice area he may felt uneasy with you digging around in your pockets for proof of CHL until you were disarmed. It sounds as though once you were disarmed and he did see your CHL he was a bit more at ease.
Let me throw a scenario out there for those agitated at the situation:
Let's take this exact scenario and you are the officer. You ask if he is armed and he responds yes. You ask to see his CHL and he puts his hand on his back pocket, freezes for a second and then proceeds to tell you "Sorry officer but it looks as if I have left my wallet at the house." Now you have an armed person standing 4 feet away with his hand near his gun that might have just had his "bluff" called. What happens next?
As for leaving you in in a hurry in a "disarmed" condition, I'd bet you could slap the mag back in and rack it before he was 50ft down the road and who cares if someone sees you do it - there's an officer 50feet away.
With all the videos and stories of LEOs acting inappropriately I'd post this one up as the appropriate way for an LEO to behave if he truly feels the need to disarm you.
Mark C.
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- Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:00 pm
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- Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:01 am
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Austin, and I immediately reloaded my weapon with it concealed below the edge of the trunk, then slid it into my holster.....terryg wrote:After he apologized, I would have taken the moment to politely ask him what his safety concerns were that prompted him to disarm you. Then, before he left, I would have asked:The_Reason wrote:After he completed his responsibilities to both parties, he came over and asked me how long I have been carrying, andnhow I liked my ultra carry. He apologized for dis arming me, explained the location of my weapon and that he was planning on picking up his first next week.
"Listen, considering the area we are in, would you mind staying here with me until I can get my weapon reloaded and safely back in it's holster? I don't want to stand her on the side of the road in plain view handling my weapon from the back of the trunk and I also don't want to drive off both unarmed and with the weapon and ammunition unsecured in the trunk."
You said APD and mention 35 - was this in Alvin?
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Ohh, just re-read the immediate call afterwards -so I guess no chance for that. How did you re-arm yourself? If you had to do it from the trunk without the officer being there - I would file a complaint. He left you in an extremely vulnerable position forcing you to fail to conceal and potentially making you a target to both bad guys and to well meaning CHL holders or other LEO's.
- Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:44 pm
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1st contact while carrying
Was involved in a car accident tonight. I was the passenger of a car that was rear-ended.
APD officer who was working the scene, after dark, on the wrong side of 35, by himself asked if I had any weapons on me. I explained I had my 1911 at my 3 o clock and I was a Texas CHL holder. He spoke into his radio then asked me to tap exactly where my weapon was located, and what it was. He then disarmed me and asked my driver to open his trunk. He cleared the weapon, and placed the chambered round next to the magazine and the gun in the corner of the trunk, then asked to see my license.
After he completed his responsibilities to both parties, he came over and asked me how long I have been carrying, andnhow I liked my ultra carry. He apologized for dis arming me, explained the location of my weapon and that he was planning on picking up his first next week.
All in all, it was a good interaction, and I don't blame him at all for dis-arming me, as he was alone, and we had pulled into a parking lot in not the best neighborhood, and were surrounded by looky-loo's. I did thank him for treating the weapon like his own, and thanked him for his service... He left the scene lights and sirens on to what sounded like a shots fired called.
APD officer who was working the scene, after dark, on the wrong side of 35, by himself asked if I had any weapons on me. I explained I had my 1911 at my 3 o clock and I was a Texas CHL holder. He spoke into his radio then asked me to tap exactly where my weapon was located, and what it was. He then disarmed me and asked my driver to open his trunk. He cleared the weapon, and placed the chambered round next to the magazine and the gun in the corner of the trunk, then asked to see my license.
After he completed his responsibilities to both parties, he came over and asked me how long I have been carrying, andnhow I liked my ultra carry. He apologized for dis arming me, explained the location of my weapon and that he was planning on picking up his first next week.
All in all, it was a good interaction, and I don't blame him at all for dis-arming me, as he was alone, and we had pulled into a parking lot in not the best neighborhood, and were surrounded by looky-loo's. I did thank him for treating the weapon like his own, and thanked him for his service... He left the scene lights and sirens on to what sounded like a shots fired called.