Here's an explanation from Robert's Rules of Parliamentary Procedure. I'm not sure I understand it any better after reading it than I did before (which was not at all.)RPBrown wrote:What does "laid on the table subject to call" mean?
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- Mon May 06, 2013 7:22 am
- Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
- Topic: Gun Bill Saturday - May 4th
- Replies: 113
- Views: 36733
Re: Gun Bill Saturday - May 4th
- Sun May 05, 2013 8:21 pm
- Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
- Topic: Gun Bill Saturday - May 4th
- Replies: 113
- Views: 36733
Re: Gun Bill Saturday - May 4th
You know you can look these up, right?M_Smith86 wrote:What was so different between sb 299 and hb1304 anyway?
HB 1304
SB 299
AN ACT
relating to the intentional display of a handgun.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
SECTION 1. Sections 46.035(a) and (h), Penal Code, are
amended to read as follows:
(a) A license holder commits an offense if the license
holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person
under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code,
and intentionally displays [fails to conceal] the handgun.
(h) It is a defense to prosecution under Subsection (a) that
the actor, at the time of the commission of the offense, displayed
the handgun under circumstances in which the actor would have been
justified in the use of [deadly] force under Chapter 9.
SECTION 2. The change in law made by this Act applies only
to an offense committed on or after the effective date of this Act.
An offense committed before the effective date of this Act is
governed by the law in effect on the date the offense was committed,
and the former law is continued in effect for that purpose. For
purposes of this section, an offense was committed before the
effective date of this Act if any element of the offense occurred
before that date.
SECTION 3. This Act takes effect September 1, 2013.
EDIT: Here's the differences between the two bills:
AN ACT
relating to the intentional display of a handgun by a person
licensed to carry a concealed handgun.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
SECTION 1. Subsections (a) and (h), Section 46.035, Penal
Code, are amended to read as follows:
(a) A license holder commits an offense if the license
holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person
under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code,
and intentionally displays [fails to conceal] the handgun in plain
view of another person in a public place.
(h) It is a defense to prosecution under Subsection (a) that
the actor, at the time of the commission of the offense, displayed
the handgun under circumstances in which the actor would have been
justified in the use of force or deadly force under Chapter 9.
SECTION 2. The change in law made by this Act applies only to
an offense committed on or after the effective date of this Act. An
offense committed before the effective date of this Act is governed
by the law in effect on the date the offense was committed, and the
former law is continued in effect for that purpose. For purposes of
this section, an offense was committed before the effective date of
this Act if any element of the offense occurred before that date.
SECTION 3. This Act takes effect September 1, 2013.
HB 1304 is represented by a minus sign
SB 299 is represented by a plus sign
-relating to the intentional display of a handgun.
+relating to the intentional display of a handgun by a person
+licensed to carry a concealed handgun.
- SECTION 1. Sections 46.035(a) and (h), Penal Code, are
+ SECTION 1. Subsections (a) and (h), Section 46.035, Penal
-amended to read as follows:
+Code, are amended to read as follows:
-and intentionally displays [fails to conceal] the handgun.
+and intentionally displays [fails to conceal] the handgun in plain
+view of another person in a public place.
- Sat May 04, 2013 11:20 pm
- Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
- Topic: Gun Bill Saturday - May 4th
- Replies: 113
- Views: 36733
Re: Gun Bill Saturday - May 4th
Every bill in the House and Senate must be read three times before it is passed. The first reading is in committee. The second reading is on the floor of the chamber. That's when bills can be amended without any special rules. Bills can also be amended on third reading, but they must meet certain criteria. Once a bill passes the third reading it is engrossed. When it passes both chambers, it goes to the Governor for his signature or veto.CJD wrote:For the two Senate bills that were submitted in lieu of the house bills, what does it mean "passed to third reading"?
- Sat May 04, 2013 8:55 pm
- Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
- Topic: Gun Bill Saturday - May 4th
- Replies: 113
- Views: 36733
Re: Gun Bill Saturday - May 4th
Seriously? HB 47 and HB 1304 were laid on the table and the Senate version was considered. All the rest passed the House. HB 485 passed on a recorded vote. All others passed by affirmation. They still have to go to the Senate and pass to become law.lrpettit wrote:Could somebody please put this in English for all of us non-lawyers?
- Sat May 04, 2013 8:48 pm
- Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
- Topic: Gun Bill Saturday - May 4th
- Replies: 113
- Views: 36733
Re: Gun Bill Saturday - May 4th
Everything that says "engrossed" passed.nightmare69 wrote:Thanks for the update but what passed?
- Sat May 04, 2013 8:48 pm
- Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
- Topic: Gun Bill Saturday - May 4th
- Replies: 113
- Views: 36733
Re: Gun Bill Saturday - May 4th
The date was changed in the committee substitute.polekitty wrote:I was reading over HB 972 and noticed that the effective date changed from 9/1/2013 to 1/1/2014, but none of the admenments addressed a change in dates. How does that happen?
- Sat May 04, 2013 8:08 pm
- Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
- Topic: Gun Bill Saturday - May 4th
- Replies: 113
- Views: 36733
Re: Gun Bill Saturday - May 4th
Here's an update:
HB 47 Relating to a handgun proficiency course that is taken to obtain or renew a concealed handgun license.
H Laid on the table subject to call 05/04/2013 (I have no idea what this means)
H Companion considered in lieu of SB 864 05/04/2013
HB 48 Relating to the procedure under which a person may renew a license to carry a concealed handgun.
H Passed to engrossment 05/04/2013
HB 485 Relating to the amount of the fee paid by certain peace officers and veterans of the United States armed forces for a license to carry a concealed handgun; authorizing a fee.
H Statement(s) of vote recorded in Journal 05/04/2013
H Record vote RV#549 05/04/2013
H Passed to engrossment as amended 05/04/2013
H Point of order sustained (amendment) 05/04/2013
H Amendment(s) offered 4-Anderson 05/04/2013
H Amendment adopted as amended 2-Burnam 05/04/2013
H Amendment amended 3-Gonzales 05/04/2013
H Amendment(s) offered 2-Burnam 05/04/2013
H Amended 1-P. King 05/04/2013
H Statement(s) of vote recorded in Journal 05/04/2013
H Record vote RV#548 05/04/2013
H Motion to table fails 05/04/2013
H Amendment(s) offered 1-P. King 05/04/2013
H Read 2nd time 05/04/2013
HB 508 Relating to certain offenses relating to carrying concealed handguns on property owned or leased by a governmental entity; providing a civil penalty.
H Passed to engrossment as amended 05/04/2013
H Amended 1-Flynn 05/04/2013
HB 698 Relating to certain procedures for submitting legible and classifiable fingerprints with an application for a license to carry a concealed handgun.
H Passed to engrossment as amended 05/04/2013
H Amended 1-Springer 05/04/2013
H Read 2nd time 05/04/2013
HB 801 Relating to the discharge of a firearm across the property line of a school.
H Passed to engrossment 05/04/2013
H Read 2nd time 05/04/2013
HB 972 Relating to the carrying of concealed handguns on the premises of and certain other locations associated with institutions of higher education.
H Nonrecord vote recorded in Journal 05/04/2013
H Passed to engrossment as amended 05/04/2013
H Amended 8-Patrick 05/04/2013
H Point of order overruled 05/04/2013
H Statement of Leg. Intent Recorded in Journal 05/04/2013
H Amended 7-Patrick 05/04/2013
H Nonrecord vote recorded in Journal 05/04/2013
H Amendment fails of adoption 6-Canales 05/04/2013
H Amended 5-Kleinschmidt 05/04/2013
H Amended 4-Lavender 05/04/2013
H Amended 3-Eiland 05/04/2013
H Amended 2-P. King 05/04/2013
H Amended 1-Schaefer 05/04/2013
H Point of order overruled 05/04/2013
H Point of order overruled 05/04/2013
H Point of order overruled 05/04/2013
H Point of order overruled 05/04/2013
H Point of order overruled 05/04/2013
H Read 2nd time 05/04/2013
HB 1009 Relating to the creation of a new category of law enforcement officer who shall be designated a school marshal, the training and appointment of certain employees of a school district or open-enrollment charter school as school marshals, and the rights, restrictions, limitations, and responsibilities of school marshals; authorizing the imposition of a fee.
H Nonrecord vote recorded in Journal 05/04/2013
H Passed to engrossment 05/04/2013
H Point of order overruled 05/04/2013
H Read 2nd time 05/04/2013
HB 1304 Relating to the intentional display of a handgun.
H Laid on the table subject to call 05/04/2013
H Companion considered in lieu of SB 299 05/04/2013
HB 1349 Relating to information that may be requested by the Department of Public Safety from a person applying for or renewing a concealed handgun license.
H Nonrecord vote recorded in Journal 05/04/2013
H Passed to engrossment 05/04/2013
H Read 2nd time 05/04/2013
HB 1421 Relating to the disposition of certain seized weapons.
H Passed to engrossment 05/04/2013
H Read 2nd time 05/04/2013
HB 47 Relating to a handgun proficiency course that is taken to obtain or renew a concealed handgun license.
H Laid on the table subject to call 05/04/2013 (I have no idea what this means)
H Companion considered in lieu of SB 864 05/04/2013
HB 48 Relating to the procedure under which a person may renew a license to carry a concealed handgun.
H Passed to engrossment 05/04/2013
HB 485 Relating to the amount of the fee paid by certain peace officers and veterans of the United States armed forces for a license to carry a concealed handgun; authorizing a fee.
H Statement(s) of vote recorded in Journal 05/04/2013
H Record vote RV#549 05/04/2013
H Passed to engrossment as amended 05/04/2013
H Point of order sustained (amendment) 05/04/2013
H Amendment(s) offered 4-Anderson 05/04/2013
H Amendment adopted as amended 2-Burnam 05/04/2013
H Amendment amended 3-Gonzales 05/04/2013
H Amendment(s) offered 2-Burnam 05/04/2013
H Amended 1-P. King 05/04/2013
H Statement(s) of vote recorded in Journal 05/04/2013
H Record vote RV#548 05/04/2013
H Motion to table fails 05/04/2013
H Amendment(s) offered 1-P. King 05/04/2013
H Read 2nd time 05/04/2013
HB 508 Relating to certain offenses relating to carrying concealed handguns on property owned or leased by a governmental entity; providing a civil penalty.
H Passed to engrossment as amended 05/04/2013
H Amended 1-Flynn 05/04/2013
HB 698 Relating to certain procedures for submitting legible and classifiable fingerprints with an application for a license to carry a concealed handgun.
H Passed to engrossment as amended 05/04/2013
H Amended 1-Springer 05/04/2013
H Read 2nd time 05/04/2013
HB 801 Relating to the discharge of a firearm across the property line of a school.
H Passed to engrossment 05/04/2013
H Read 2nd time 05/04/2013
HB 972 Relating to the carrying of concealed handguns on the premises of and certain other locations associated with institutions of higher education.
H Nonrecord vote recorded in Journal 05/04/2013
H Passed to engrossment as amended 05/04/2013
H Amended 8-Patrick 05/04/2013
H Point of order overruled 05/04/2013
H Statement of Leg. Intent Recorded in Journal 05/04/2013
H Amended 7-Patrick 05/04/2013
H Nonrecord vote recorded in Journal 05/04/2013
H Amendment fails of adoption 6-Canales 05/04/2013
H Amended 5-Kleinschmidt 05/04/2013
H Amended 4-Lavender 05/04/2013
H Amended 3-Eiland 05/04/2013
H Amended 2-P. King 05/04/2013
H Amended 1-Schaefer 05/04/2013
H Point of order overruled 05/04/2013
H Point of order overruled 05/04/2013
H Point of order overruled 05/04/2013
H Point of order overruled 05/04/2013
H Point of order overruled 05/04/2013
H Read 2nd time 05/04/2013
HB 1009 Relating to the creation of a new category of law enforcement officer who shall be designated a school marshal, the training and appointment of certain employees of a school district or open-enrollment charter school as school marshals, and the rights, restrictions, limitations, and responsibilities of school marshals; authorizing the imposition of a fee.
H Nonrecord vote recorded in Journal 05/04/2013
H Passed to engrossment 05/04/2013
H Point of order overruled 05/04/2013
H Read 2nd time 05/04/2013
HB 1304 Relating to the intentional display of a handgun.
H Laid on the table subject to call 05/04/2013
H Companion considered in lieu of SB 299 05/04/2013
HB 1349 Relating to information that may be requested by the Department of Public Safety from a person applying for or renewing a concealed handgun license.
H Nonrecord vote recorded in Journal 05/04/2013
H Passed to engrossment 05/04/2013
H Read 2nd time 05/04/2013
HB 1421 Relating to the disposition of certain seized weapons.
H Passed to engrossment 05/04/2013
H Read 2nd time 05/04/2013