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mr surveyor wrote:

baldeagle wrote:

suthdj wrote:We all have a responsibility to defend the Constitution. However, how we defend it is our own choice, some will take up arms. some will write letters, some will make bombs you do what you can, when you can and stay alive long enough to make a difference. If you choose to go out in a blaze of glory when they come for your guns that is your choice. I think it would be foolish and that is my opinion. We will never all agree on how it is done or where, when etc.... So lets all agree on yes, we have a responsibility. How is irrelevant. You can't make a difference when your dead.

Tell that to defenders of the Alamo.

just curious .... when/if "they" come knocking on your door at 0300 will your home become "the Alamo"?

suthdj wrote:We all have a responsibility to defend the Constitution. However, how we defend it is our own choice, some will take up arms. some will write letters, some will make bombs you do what you can, when you can and stay alive long enough to make a difference. If you choose to go out in a blaze of glory when they come for your guns that is your choice. I think it would be foolish and that is my opinion. We will never all agree on how it is done or where, when etc.... So lets all agree on yes, we have a responsibility. How is irrelevant. You can't make a difference when your dead.

styxx wrote:I cannot help but to wonder how many of the saber rattlers on this thread have actually worn the uniform during times of conflict. I hear and listen far more closely to the thoughts of folks like irpettit and suthdj and E.Marques than any of the sabre rattlers.

Rex B wrote:

VMI77 wrote:
And unlike what happened in WW2, there will be no "America" to escape to. When there is nowhere to run it's fight or submit.

There wasn't any escape to America for Jews then. We turned them away by the boatloads before and after the war.

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jmra wrote:

baldeagle wrote:

E10 wrote:You may, by the letter and spirit of the constitution, have a right to fight, but you should understand that's a battle you're almost sure to lose, with up to fatal results. The cops or the feds are going to be better staffed, armed, and equipped than you are. Better to let them take your guns (those they can find, anyway) and fight the battle in the courts. It'll give Mr. Cotton something to do. The right to keep and bear arms doesn't mean much if you're not alive to exercise it.

It also doesn't mean much if you're not willing to die for it.

But what do you do if your 13 yr old and 11 yr old are sitting in the living room when they knock on the door. I may be willing to die defending those rights but I know my boys would grad their ARs (that we lost in the boating accident) the same time I grab mine. Would you be willing to let them die beside you? Or would you along with your boys live to fight another day?

jmra wrote:

E10 wrote:You may, by the letter and spirit of the constitution, have a right to fight, but you should understand that's a battle you're almost sure to lose, with up to fatal results. The cops or the feds are going to be better staffed, armed, and equipped than you are. Better to let them take your guns (those they can find, anyway) and fight the battle in the courts. It'll give Mr. Cotton something to do. The right to keep and bear arms doesn't mean much if you're not alive to exercise it.

Kinda like a pedestrian having the right of way in a crosswalk. The truck always wins.

E10 wrote:You may, by the letter and spirit of the constitution, have a right to fight, but you should understand that's a battle you're almost sure to lose, with up to fatal results. The cops or the feds are going to be better staffed, armed, and equipped than you are. Better to let them take your guns (those they can find, anyway) and fight the battle in the courts. It'll give Mr. Cotton something to do. The right to keep and bear arms doesn't mean much if you're not alive to exercise it.

Our framers were very clear on this. If my government comes to take my guns, they are violating one of my constitutional rights that is covered by the 2nd amendment.

It is not my right, at that point, but my responsibility to respond in the name of liberty. What I am telling you is something that many are trying to soft sell, and many others have tried to avoid putting into print, but I am going to say it. The time for speaking in code is over.

If they come for our guns then it is our constitutional right to put them six feet under. You have the right to kill any representative of this government who tries to tread on your liberty. I am thinking about self-defense and not talking about inciting a revolution. Re-read Jefferson’s quote. He talks about a “last resort.” I am not trying to start a Revolt, I am talking about self-defense. If the day for Revolution comes, when no peaceful options exist, we may have to talk about that as well. None of us wants to think about that, but please understand that a majority can not take away your rights as an American citizen. Only you can choose to give up your rights.