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Sounds like Fletcher believes the bill will make it to the floor. If true, that is good news indeed.

RoyGBiv wrote:

baldeagle wrote:HB 3218 does not address campus carry. It removes the restrictions on carrying for places where alcohol is served unless they are posted and completely for sporting events, correctional facilities, hospitals and nursing homes, churches and synagogues, amusement parks and governmental meetings (IOW 30.06 may no longer be used in those locations).

That's not correct. I made the same error the first time I read 3218.
Keep reading into Section 5(a)(5), where it very clearly and succinctly says....

SECTION 5. Sections 46.15(a) and (b), Penal Code, are
amended to read as follows:
(a) Sections 46.02 and 46.03 do not apply to:
<snip>
(5) a person who is carrying a concealed handgun and a
valid license issued under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government
Code, to carry a concealed handgun of the same category as the
handgun the person is carrying.

Now go back and read 46.02 and 46.03 (especially 46.03) and see what restrictions would NO LONGER apply to us

You're right, I think, but that will never make it to the Governor's desk in that form. That change would allow CHL holders to carry in airport secure areas, in court houses and at polling places. I doubt seriously that will pass unamended.

Jaguar wrote:

baldeagle wrote:

cw3van wrote:Just more PC junk can't for the life of me understand in Texas how this stuff gets so watered down if & I say if it gets into law how many campuses do you think are going to allow CC.

Zero. Guaranteed.

I disagree, small colleges and universities may allow CC. I know Tarleton State University in Stephenville, my alma mater and the school both of my kids currently attend, would be in favor of at least having the discussion. Sure, they have a Humanities department that would be anti, but overall it is a very conservative school from the top down.

I would also assume Texas A&M would have a very good discussion within the student body and administration about allowing CC on campus. UT, UH, and many of the big private schools like TCU, SMU and Baylor - not so much.

Just my opinion - although a small step, a step in the right direction none the less.

ETA - If HB3218 passes, this bill won't matter anyway.

HB 3218 does not address campus carry. It removes the restrictions on carrying for places where alcohol is served unless they are posted and completely for sporting events, correctional facilities, hospitals and nursing homes, churches and synagogues, amusement parks and governmental meetings (IOW 30.06 may no longer be used in those locations).

phd2b wrote:from what I understand, this is similar to the whole issue of private property owners and 30.06. So, TEXAS PUBLIC colleges and university's would NOT BE ABLE TO OPT OUT, only a "private or independent institution of higher education" would be able to opt out.

Personally, I would like the "opt out" removed, so that there would be Campus Carry at every college and university in Texas, but in reading discussions on 30.06, there is always alot of talk about the rights of private property owners, and how a CC'er is free to spend their money eslewhere.

So, I guess if you believe in the rights of a private property owner to post a 30.06, you likely should also believe that a private institution of higher education should have that same option.

If I am misunderstanding anything, I am willing to learn and re-evaluate.

That said, I guess the next steps are to put some pressure on the House Calendar Committee to schedule a vote, and then some work over on the Seante side, to get Sen Bridwell's SB 182 moving.

That is the original bill. The committee substitute which is what passed out of committee changes public schools to opt-out and private schools to opt-in. It's a worthless watered down bill that does nothing. Texas schools already can allow carry if they want to. None do.

You have to understand. Universities are the bastion of liberals. They own them, run them like their personal fiefdoms and truck no opposition from free-thinking people. There are precious few exceptions, like Hillsdale College (which refuses to accept any federal funding including scholarships) and Liberty University. There's a few others, but not many. If you want a college education in America it's going to be liberal, it's going to be anti-American and it's going to promote communism both openly and subtly. That's reality.

mamabearCali wrote:

baldeagle wrote:

cw3van wrote:Just more PC junk can't for the life of me understand in Texas how this stuff gets so watered down if & I say if it gets into law how many campuses do you think are going to allow CC.

Zero. Guaranteed.

Liberty University in VA is permitting CC by CHP holders. So zero may not be accurate.

This ain't VA. I seriously doubt any state university will allow carry (I work at one), and I'm almost certain no private university will. The only possible exception is Kilgore College because of its President (search the archives). UT schools are totally opposed to guns on campus and are run by liberals. I've given up the dream of carrying at work. It's never going to happen. Liberals would rather see 30 innocent people die than one bad guy go down. Criminals help them move toward their goal of enslaving free people.

Faculty are vehemently opposed. Even if students and staff support it, at a university the faculty get what they want no matter how unreasonable or unfair. When they don't get their way they act like two year olds, stomp and whine and take it out on everyone around them. Then they wield their nuclear weapon. If you do this I'll move my $3 million research project and my Nobel prize to another university. The administration folds like a cheap suit every time. Trust me. I've BTDT.

cw3van wrote:Just more PC junk can't for the life of me understand in Texas how this stuff gets so watered down if & I say if it gets into law how many campuses do you think are going to allow CC.

Zero. Guaranteed.