TexasCHLforum.com

Excaliber wrote:In this instance he is correct that there is somewhere between .1 and .3 or so seconds in response time lost to moving the trigger finger onto the trigger when a decision has been made to fire, and that having the finger already on the trigger is marginally faster. I can't argue that those very brief time intervals couldn't be critical in a given situation, and in a situation where one was in extreme danger and one already had justification to use deadly force, a finger on the trigger tactic might be appropriate when facing an unrestrained highly dangerous suspect. However, I also maintain that the risk of accidentally shooting someone without either justification or a decision to use deadly force is so high with a finger on the trigger before a decision to fire has been made that, in my opinion and the opinion of many other knowledgeable folks, that practice in most circumstances would constitute gross negligence and be indefensible in light of well documented history and research.

First, thank you for your excellent and informative response, which is your norm.

When I read the article, what I got out of it was that if you are in a life threatening situation and if you know the bad buy(s?) is just around the corner and you know that no one else is at risk (e.g. you are point man and there is zero possibilities of innocent civilians being in the line of fire), then and only then it makes sense to have your finger on the trigger. The examples that I've seen of so-called AD (such as the three youtube videos linked by a commenter in a different thread) are not examples of what is wrong with what Suarez is claiming. Those are examples of extremely poor firearm handling. You don't put your finger on the trigger while drawing or holstering. You don't teach a class with a loaded weapon and you most certainly do not put your finger on the trigger of a loaded gun while teaching a class. I personally don't believe there is such a thing as an AD when the finger is on the trigger. To me an AD is when a gun fires without the trigger being pulled.

Excaliber wrote:

gigag04 wrote:http://www.warriortalknews.com/2011/01/ ... ering.html

This ludicrous article, among others. If you search on here somewhere we had a little chat about him a while ago.

Mr. Suarez is not on my list of folks whose classes I'd jump through hoops to attend either. I won't elaborate on my reasoning here other than to say that a reading of the article Gigag04 cited above should raise enough red flags to serve as fair warning for anyone who has not come across his work before.

Please elaborate. Innuendo does none of us any good. What is wrong with the article?

gigag04 wrote:http://www.warriortalknews.com/2011/01/ ... ering.html

This ludicrous article, among others. If you search on here somewhere we had a little chat about him a while ago.

OK, I'll bite. What's ludicrous about it?

gigag04 wrote:As has been said by someone wiser than I, "buyer beware."

I had never heard of Suarez until this post, so I did some research. According to Gabe, he was on workers comp for a work-related back injury. He asked his attorney if it would be a violation for him to teach classes while he was recuperating. HIs attorney said no. He notified his employer (Santa Monica PD) and the police union in writing of what he was doing. They later decided to charge him with the kitchen sink of violations, including some felonies, one of which was workers compensation fraud. After some time and a lot of lawyers fees he decided to plead guilty to a misdemeanor to get the whole mess over with. Here's a copy of the news story about his conviction. He was ordered to pay a $100 fine and $112, 250.01 restitution for wages he was paid while he was on workers comp. He also had to serve a year in jail and five years probation. His "crime" was teaching classes while he was on workers comp, classes which he had notified the PD he was teaching and which he had cleared with both his doctor and his attorney.

I would not take one of his classes, because they are too expensive for me. I have no idea if he's a good teacher or not, but, from what I've read, it's a bit unfair to accuse him of lacking integrity.